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08-09-2007, 09:57 PM
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The Order Of The Chapter & Verses In The Koran & Other Miracles.
When you count the 114 Chapters of the Holy Quran, like 1+2+3+4+5 all the way to 114, you will get a total of 6555.
When you add the numbers of all the verses in each Chapter, you will get a total of 6236.
So, Chapter 1 has 7 verses. 1 + 7 = 8 EVEN
Chapter 2 has 286 verses 2 + 286 = 288 EVEN
Chapter 3 has 200 verses 3 + 200 = 203 ODD
Chapter 4 has 176 verses 4 + 176 = 180 EVEN
Chapter 5 has 120 verses 5 + 120 = 125 ODD
cChapter 6 has 165 verses 6 + 165 = 171 ODD
Follow the above until you finish the whole 114 Chapters. Remember to put the total into odd and even numbers. The total of the odd numbers will be 6555!
The total of the even numbers will be 6236!
This is the first of many evidences that the Al-Koran Al-Kareem cannot be changed by one word or letter.
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08-10-2007, 03:58 PM
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FRANCE! You're next.....
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Re: The Order Of The Chapter & Verses In The Koran & Other Miracles.
.... Well done? *blinks*
How aboots you go boast that in the Islam forum...
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08-10-2007, 04:06 PM
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Re: The Order Of The Chapter & Verses In The Koran & Other Miracles.
Clearly is visible the name of ''ALLAH'' and ''MUHAMMAD'' Microsoft Excel Reveals A Miracle of the Koran-Graphical Presentation of the Miracle by using the chapters and verses of the Al-Koran.
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08-10-2007, 05:13 PM
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Re: The Order Of The Chapter & Verses In The Koran & Other Miracles.
Does that make Bill Gates a prophet?
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08-10-2007, 07:32 PM
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Re: The Order Of The Chapter & Verses In The Koran & Other Miracles.
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Does that make Bill Gates a prophet?
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Hes made more profit then everyone!
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08-10-2007, 08:50 PM
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Re: The Order Of The Chapter & Verses In The Koran & Other Miracles.
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08-10-2007, 09:49 PM
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Re: The Order Of The Chapter & Verses In The Koran & Other Miracles.
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Thanks for the update, Dauer.
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08-12-2007, 08:37 PM
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Peace, Love and Unity
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Re: The Order Of The Chapter & Verses In The Koran & Other Miracles.
Seems a little forced, though - numerical relationships exist in a lot of things, but you're kind of saying "If this set of numbers are treated like this, and this other set of numbers are treated like this, then if you also treat two other sets of numbers differently, they end up matching. It's a miracle!".
Which sort of doesn't set off my miracle-ometer.
Then again, does Islam need miracles to justify itself? Curious.
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08-14-2007, 11:45 PM
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Re: The Order Of The Chapter & Verses In The Koran & Other Miracles.
Mathematical construction of sacred texts used to be common. William Meegan has done a lot of work with Dante:
Index of Dante Alighieri's La Divina Commedia's Mathematical Web-Pages
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It is actually easier to explain this matrix and these mathematics by talking about the Multiplication Tables. When studying the matrix you'll see that it is merely the Multiplication Tables up to the #9. Apparently this matrix is created when each of the Multiplication Tables are reduced to their lowest common denominators when Casting-Out-Nines. There is no great mystery in how the matrix came about. The mystery is in what these numbers are saying. They emit patterns that the ancients used to write their Sacred Scriptures. Now we in the 21st Century are hard core materialist and we can't believe that something as tangible as numerical data can be spiritual. I beg to differ. It is the only evidence that we have that there is a spiritual reality. Why else would these numbers gather into such unique patterns.
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Wolfram von Eschenbach's Parzival, also has a mathematical construction.
Indeed Blessed Raymond Lully tried to convert Muslims by showing them Kabbalistic proofs in the Christian Bible. For his efforts he was stoned to death.
-Br.Bruce
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09-16-2007, 04:59 AM
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In the Name of God
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Re: The Order Of The Chapter & Verses In The Koran & Other Miracles.
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Then again, does Islam need miracles to justify itself? Curious
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No,,,especially Quran
Islam depends on logician attitude and respect of human intellect.
Many muslim does not care about what some people try to find like mathematical arrangement in Quran ..we didn't need these things to know how Quran is great...the meaning and the tenets,,the amazing feeling ,,,and the recovering effects are more important.
peace
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09-17-2007, 03:22 PM
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Coexistence insha'Allah
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Re: The Order Of The Chapter & Verses In The Koran & Other Miracles.
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Many muslim does not care about what some people try to find like mathematical arrangement in Quran ..we didn't need these things to know how Quran is great...the meaning and the tenets,,the amazing feeling ,,,and the recovering effects are more important.
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Very nicely said Friend, Ameen to that.
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09-17-2007, 05:05 PM
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Re: The Order Of The Chapter & Verses In The Koran & Other Miracles.
Asalaamulikum,
yep, I've done some small studies on this, yes there are many patterns,
but one thing everyone knows, the Qu'ran was compilied from the biggest to smallest Surahs (Chapters) .
salaamulikum
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