The Pope and the Divine Feminine - Page 3

Quahom1 · 03-22-2005, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Sacredstar

Dear Q

Well in Christianity literal fundamentals of the bible you are correct.

"Thy will be will done"

Means just that GOD's will not our will.

The bible says obedience and I have been given the word surrender, the reason we were given free will was so that we could choose to surrender it to GOD. You prefer the word obey because it is used in the bible but that is a slightly different emphasis as I am sure that you will agree.

When one obeys one as no choice which kinda takes away free will.

Love beyond measure

kim xx

My turn.

HORSE PUCKEY!

When one OBEYS, one CHOOSES to adhere to what is demanded of them, or asked of them. IT is all free will.

The price one might pay is a different matter, in determining whether one excersizes their right to free will.

I obey my commanders, because among other things, I choose to.

Like my company commander once said "We can't make you do anything, but, we can make you wish you did "...

That is life. Everything has a price, including free will.

v/r

Q

Sacredstar · 03-22-2005, 01:22 PM

Dear Q

Well a child would disagree a majority do not get a choice in the matter and surely nor does a military person for they are court marshalled for not carrying out orders are they not.

Hugs

kim xx

SOGFPP · 03-23-2005, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Quahom1

One of them thinks he can "order" Catholics to read what he says, and think as he decrees.

Reading the Da Vinci code, for example, is considered to be close to sinning.

v/r

Q

Forgive me for jumping in.... but I don't understand what your concern is.... to be Catholic is to be loyal to the Magesterium.

The Da Vinci code has torn many Catholics away from our faith.... not everyone on this earth is educated enough to understand the difference between fact/fiction, and are deceived by the book..... I would not condone burning or banning the book, but in general believe the Church was 100% correct in speaking out against it.

Peace in Christ,
Scott

didymus · 03-23-2005, 03:44 AM

Not everything in the book was fictional. Indeed the story was a work of fiction but the rest was a mixture of historic fact and speculation.

SOGFPP · 03-23-2005, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by didymus

Not everything in the book was fictional. Indeed the story was a work of fiction but the rest was a mixture of historic fact and speculation.

Thanks for proving my point.

The book is a work of fiction.

The "mixture" of historic "facts" do not make the book historical.

If I state to you: "The United States is a country in North America founded by Spock from Star Trek."..... I have just given you a "mixture" of historical fact (the US is in North America) and "speculation" (Spock).

It's garbage, in my opinion.... not a bad read (I thought the charachters were a bit "cartoonish" and shallow).... but I believe it was a conscious effort on Mr. Browns part to put enough "facts" in to make the "speculation" seem worthy of discussion. It is not.

Just my two cents,
Scott

didymus · 03-23-2005, 04:59 AM

Like I said, some historical facts and speculation. You're right it doesn't make the book as a whole historical but that wasn't what i was implying in the first place.

Basstian · 03-23-2005, 05:02 AM

Didnt read it watched a real good news reporter through her carreer out the window to do a documentory on it.
The fact is when you take all the speculation out of it you dont have much of a story at all.
He could have just as easily turned it into a story that Jesus was from Mars and the apostles went their apon their deaths. that speculation is as good as his.

didymus · 03-23-2005, 05:06 AM

It was alittle deeper than that Basstian, some of the claims had large followings with manuscripts and documents to go with it. I'm not saying any of it is true. I neither endorse nor oppose the claims. They could as easily be true as false. But it wasn't just some guy who threw out the idea that Jesus was married and had a daughter and wrote a book about it. These beliefs started hundreds of years ago.

Quahom1 · 03-23-2005, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by SOGFPP

Forgive me for jumping in.... but I don't understand what your concern is.... to be Catholic is to be loyal to the Magesterium.

The Da Vinci code has torn many Catholics away from our faith.... not everyone on this earth is educated enough to understand the difference between fact/fiction, and are deceived by the book..... I would not condone burning or banning the book, but in general believe the Church was 100% correct in speaking out against it.

Peace in Christ,
Scott

Sir, or should I call you Father...

I understand being my brother's keeper, but I'm not an idiot's sage, nor a fool. Why not? Why were they not strong enough in the faith? Not educated enough? Church's fault. Unless the Church gets it's act together, it will have absolutely no voice...and media will rule supreme.

Peace, because of Christ

Q

p.s. don't mind me. I can be an angry ******* of a Catholic, but I am fiercely so.

I, Brian · 03-23-2005, 10:35 AM

Divine Femine? Definitely a Christian Mysticism topic, rather than mainstream - moved.