The Power of Words

[pohaikawahine]

aloha e flow - the most popular version is a translation by Martha Beckweth and also one by Queen Lili'uokalani .... you can find both at www.sacred-texts.com/pac/ku/index.htm-4k .... the first translation that I read was from a small book called Children of the Rainbow by Leinani Melville, which is still my favorite to date. It is important to know that the translations that you will see are only the literal translations and do not take you into the depth of the power of the words and sounds themselves .... but I think you will enjoy seeing the whole chant which has a very colorful history in hawaiian culture ... when you read the translation of the chant go to line 1530 - 1536

Pola'a
Hanau ka 'ino, hanau ke au
Hanau ka pahupahu, kapohaha
Hanauy ka haluku, ka haloke, ka nakulu, ka honua naueue
Ho'iloli ke kai, pi'i ka mauna
Ho'omu ka wai, pi'i kua a hale
Pi'i konikonihi'a, pi'i na pou o Kanikawa

Born was Pola'a
Born was rough weather, born was the current
Born was the booming of the sea, the breaking of foam
Born the roaring, advancing and receeding of waves,
the rumbling sound, the earthquake
The sea rages, rises over the beach
Rises silently to the inhabited placed
Rises gradually up over the land

What you have above is the story of a great flood but there is even more to the chant than this which can only be found in its "huna", it's sacred meaning ....

Born is Pola'a - Pola'a is a supernove that was first seen July 6, 1054 .... its name is fromthe moa, or chicken .... the appearence of an eclipse was interpreted as a warning from Pele, the volcano goddess, of an approaching earthquake or volcanic eruption. One of Pele's sacred names if Hina-i-ke-ahi, meaning "moon in flames" which was derived from the red hue of the lunar eclipse .... when the super nova first made its appearance in July of 1054 AD it looked like a glowing bright white egg in the sky.... 3 months later the egg appeared to have broken and red light spread over the space in the sky on the sacred night of Akua which represents Hina, the moon goddess .... and is associated with Pele's name Hina-ike-ahi "the moon in flames) .... Pola'a is the moa, chicken or red light seen to come out of the egg 3 months after it was laid ....there was a great wave (a tidal wave) .... the chant also predicts another great wave ....

I share this to show you how those few lines above out of over 2000 lines remain obscure until you begin to study its depth .... hope you enjoyed the story .... he hawai'i au, pohaikawahine

[flowperson]

Thank you Pohaikawahine.

The sacred texts site seems to be a valuable place and will help my reading and searching so much.

The storm and the sun... what wonderful words from your culture !

Peace...flow

[wil]

Namaste Poh,

I am reading Huna in religions...talk about power in words....

[flowperson]

This thread has been inactive for some time, but something happened yesterday that is relevant to my post #4 above and I thought that some here might be interested. I find reasons to celebrate when common sense and social justice prevail over the powers and manipulative activities of governments, whether it's where we live or, in this case, far away. Today I celebrate with the indigenous Bushmen of the Kalahari !

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...eadlines-world

flow....

[InLove]

I can hear it now:

"Diamonds? What diamonds?? We are only interested in preserving the wildlife".

I celebrate, too.

InPeace,
InLove

[17th Angel]

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will always teach me.

[wil]

Originally Posted by Alex P

Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will always teach me.

ah yes, that is the true nature of the power of words.

Once you learn what affect you can have on others by your words, and the responsibility that contains, you also learn that you also have the power within to not absorb the words of others....spread the power.

[Bruno's logic]

I just posted this on another thread, perhaps I should have said it here instead...., oh I just did...

I have a different take on the matter.....

As we seek the source, the meaning, the essence of existence, we foolishly attempt to describe what we discover and therein lies the problem.

Words…



The infinite source of everything needs no human contrived words to exist.

Describing experience is a slipery slope. Once the human conversation began it was all downhill from there... the only way out of this black hole is to be re-absorbed back into the infinite source...

When two galaxies collide in the vacuum of space does it make a sound? Does anyone hear? Does anyone care? Does it matter? Is this a beautiful thing or a catastrophe?


Words have screwed up everything…


If you experience something amazing it is best to keep it to yourself….

in the beginning was the word..... God spoke for the first time; " Shut up you ignorant fool! but it was to late.... God was speaking to himself and you know what they say about those who speak to themselves....Crazy
existance is the insane ramblings of the one infinite thing existing.
~Bruno

[China Cat Sunflower]

Originally Posted by InLove

I can hear it now:

"Diamonds? What diamonds?? We are only interested in preserving the wildlife".

I celebrate, too.

InPeace,
InLove

Still love you Deb!

Chris

[China Cat Sunflower]

I think this came up in one or another discussion of the Jewish prohibition against graven images as it relates to rendering God's name, but I remember, originally, from my kabbalah perusal/study, the idea that the ability to name something implies mastery of it. I was thinking that mastery of a thing implies the ability to name it according to its exact function rather than according to the accumulated convention of it's semantical value. The real name of something, in that sense, would be an exact description of its intrinsic function without regard for, or recourse to colloquialism.

Chris

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by wil

ah yes, that is the true nature of the power of words.

Once you learn what affect you can have on others by your words, and the responsibility that contains, you also learn that you also have the power within to not absorb the words of others....spread the power.

The strength of this truth is only in proportion to how much someone matters to you.

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by China Cat Sunflower

I think this came up in one or another discussion of the Jewish prohibition against graven images as it relates to rendering God's name, but I remember, originally, from my kabbalah perusal/study, the idea that the ability to name something implies mastery of it. I was thinking that mastery of a thing implies the ability to name it according to its exact function rather than according to the accumulated convention of it's semantical value. The real name of something, in that sense, would be an exact description of its intrinsic function without regard for, or recourse to colloquialism.

Chris

I know my Dad's name. I don't call him by it...

[17th Angel]

I call all that are close and have my respect by the name they were given.... To me titles and so on and so forth.... Lord Sir Oscar Mcooolookatme OBE, MBC, DR. Puhleeze... Throw me a life saver I am drowning in dull formality which lacks connection and personality and character....

It's like handshake or hug? Handshake or hug? Handshake? Hug? Hug

[wil]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

The strength of this truth is only in proportion to how much someone matters to you.

As in how much of your power you have given over to them?

[17th Angel]

Q brah, first names are for friends? I was thinking over this whislt my late evening reflection and reading of currently the bible....

Q one thing I would love to say to you, just some food for thought... You believe Jesus is God? What does John 15:15 tell us?

And whilst on that topic and looking to the power of words.... Proverbs 17:17 (excuse the irony..)

does your God Love you brother?