The Return of an unfamiliar Jesus? - Page 2

aburaees · 07-10-2006, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by mee

To some the evidence of Jesus presence is very clear.

I would like to add that Jesus was/is supposed to come "like a thief in the night". Meaning that if you weren't/aren't keeping watch through the 'twighlight hours'...

you would not even see him coming.

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Quahom1 · 07-10-2006, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Saltmeister

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Hey, Brian. Are you suffering from double personality disorder? It seems there are two Administrators here with the same name. I'm not sure which one's the True Administrator.

I fear the return of an unfamiliar Brian.

"Jesus Christ the Nazarene" converting to Islam? Is he some kind of actor posing for the Christ of 2,000 years ago? I'd have to say that I'm amused rather than offended.

He is one and the same. If you look close at the original "Avatar" it is a play on a movie "I of Brian".

Humor is not lacking here at CR...

Quahom1 · 07-10-2006, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by I, Brian

I'm going to repeat the question:

Fullfilment on a promise. A bargain made and kept. A deal completed. Relief. For some it it be "I told you so." For others it will be "Wow, it really is true." Dancing in the streets. Such a song as never heard from the voices of man before. Tears of Joy. A heartache that soothes the soul. A laying down of arms. Embracing the enemy and wondering what the hell we were fighting for. Abandonning the banks. Emptying the hospitals, morgues and cemeteries.

Going river fishing!

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Quahom1 · 07-10-2006, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by aburaees

I would like to add that Jesus was/is supposed to come "like a thief in the night". Meaning that if you weren't/aren't keeping watch through the 'twighlight hours'...

you would not even see him coming.

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Very Jewish thought this. Like a husband (betrothed) coming for his bride after a time of making a place for them to live together. She must be ever alert, for her husband's arrival, lest he catch her in a comprimising situation. Song of Songs comes to mind, of how we are to be concerning the return of Christ.

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Azure24 · 07-11-2006, 03:48 AM

I have not read every post on this thread but i breifly remeber seeing what belief or position will Jesus have. He will have the word of truth. I believe when he comes everyone will know.

Saltmeister · 07-17-2006, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Quahom1

He is one and the same. If you look close at the original "Avatar" it is a play on a movie "I of Brian".

Humor is not lacking here at CR...

It appears that one of them ("Brian"), lives at Yorkshire, England. The other ("I, Brian"), appears to live at Stirling, Scotland . . . Yet both have "Administrator" under their avatars. Same person, two different places of residence?

Just wondering if one is really an alias for the other . . .

Jeannot · 07-17-2006, 01:24 PM

Maybe Jesus has already come back. He did say, Inasmuch as you have done it to the least of these my brothers, you have done it to me.

Worrying about the end of the world, etc, is idle speculation, when we know that the world is going to end for each of us in a few years.

Quahom1 · 07-17-2006, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Saltmeister

It appears that one of them ("Brian"), lives at Yorkshire, England. The other ("I, Brian"), appears to live at Stirling, Scotland . . . Yet both have "Administrator" under their avatars. Same person, two different places of residence?

Just wondering if one is really an alias for the other . . .

No, Brian abandonned the first account and created the second account. But since he posted in the beginning on the first account he left it in place. Brian moved from Yorkshire to Stirling earlier this year...

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Quahom1 · 07-17-2006, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeannot

Maybe Jesus has already come back. He did say, Inasmuch as you have done it to the least of these my brothers, you have done it to me.

Worrying about the end of the world, etc, is idle speculation, when we know that the world is going to end for each of us in a few years.

Only this phase of the world as we know it. I do believe there is a new beginning after this one ends (for us personally).

my thoughts

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mee · 07-17-2006, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeannot

Maybe Jesus has already come back. He did say, Inasmuch as you have done it to the least of these my brothers, you have done it to me.

Worrying about the end of the world, etc, is idle speculation, when we know that the world is going to end for each of us in a few years.

Jesus has already come into kingdom power , his presence in kingdom power is happening right now ,it is an extended period of time , but his heavenly kingdom goverment is in the heavens so it is invisible to us . but he is waiting for the command from his father Jehovah to go into action . its all happening in this time of the end........ this system of things will come to its end ,and Gods heavenly kingdom goverment will have full control soon

Quahom1 · 07-18-2006, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by mee

Jesus has already come into kingdom power , his presence in kingdom power is happening right now ,it is an extended period of time , but his heavenly kingdom goverment is in the heavens so it is invisible to us . but he is waiting for the command from his father Jehovah to go into action . its all happening in this time of the end........ this system of things will come to its end ,and Gods heavenly kingdom goverment will have full control soon

God already has control over all the governments of the earth. He after all allows them to be in existence (according to the Bible). In fact, "Jehovah" turned over creation of the whole universe to the "Word" in the very beginning. Jehovah did not create Life, Logos did. Genesis and John make that quite clear.

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seattlegal · 07-18-2006, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by I, Brian

I'm going to repeat the question:
Assuming that we do expect a Messianic return, what will Jesus actually represent in terms of teachings and meaning?

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Originally Posted by Jesus

John 13:34"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."

wil · 07-18-2006, 02:07 PM

(little story then a connection) I was building a 13 story building once, which would eventually block the gorgeous view of the United States Capitiol Building from a federal judiciary building. So hundreds of lawyers in hundreds of windows were steadily watching our construction from birds eye views, all while seeing their prestigious window office view being taken away from them. So what did the good lawyers do to satisfy their needs for some sort of vengence? They called OSHA, and called OSHA and called OSHA...with complaints of us doing work in hazardous manner.

(I'm getting there) Well OSHA doesn't like to come out and make inspections unless there is concrete pouring, electricians wiring, plumbers plumbing, precast swinging, glazers glazing...hundreds of men and thousands of opportunities to teach us lessons...so they had no interest in inspecting our job when we were only on the 3, 5, or 7th floor...but he had to appease the lawyers so he sneaked out and looked. Didn't see anything worth harping about and moved on.

(soon) So while we are finally pouring the twelth floor and stuff is going full blast on all floors below (including the 5 underground) we get our inspection, and he tells us about all the trips he made before unannounced, when it was rumored that we were in need of inspection but he didn't see it as such...

(Ok so)....what I'm thinking....What if Jesus has been here and gone many times...walked with us, talked with us, and decided to let us continue on our journey...has faith that we will work it out and eventually get it right. Yeah, the inspector says, they are making some mistakes, but nothing dramatic...they'll be fine...I'll come back later....

Oh so when our inspector did get there at the appointed time, over 300 men on the job, he found some violations, nothing major, we corrected them all and got a clean bill of health and a pat on the back, job well done...despite what the lawyers thought, that our time was now.

It all makes me wonder.... who are we, are we the worker bees trying to get the job done? are we the managers trying to insure we all do it safely? are we the apprentices, learning from the masters? Or are we the lawyers, afraid we are going to lose what we've got, and try to tell others they are doing wrong?

Seems to me, the inspector knows best, and despite all the rhetoric, he'll be here when the times right...we just need to keep buildin and just maybe he's workin with us right now.

Quahom1 · 07-18-2006, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by wil

(little story then a connection) I was building a 13 story building once, which would eventually block the gorgeous view of the United States Capitiol Building from a federal judiciary building. So hundreds of lawyers in hundreds of windows were steadily watching our construction from birds eye views, all while seeing their prestigious window office view being taken away from them. So what did the good lawyers do to satisfy their needs for some sort of vengence? They called OSHA, and called OSHA and called OSHA...with complaints of us doing work in hazardous manner.

(I'm getting there) Well OSHA doesn't like to come out and make inspections unless there is concrete pouring, electricians wiring, plumbers plumbing, precast swinging, glazers glazing...hundreds of men and thousands of opportunities to teach us lessons...so they had no interest in inspecting our job when we were only on the 3, 5, or 7th floor...but he had to appease the lawyers so he sneaked out and looked. Didn't see anything worth harping about and moved on.

(soon) So while we are finally pouring the twelth floor and stuff is going full blast on all floors below (including the 5 underground) we get our inspection, and he tells us about all the trips he made before unannounced, when it was rumored that we were in need of inspection but he didn't see it as such...

(Ok so)....what I'm thinking....What if Jesus has been here and gone many times...walked with us, talked with us, and decided to let us continue on our journey...has faith that we will work it out and eventually get it right. Yeah, the inspector says, they are making some mistakes, but nothing dramatic...they'll be fine...I'll come back later....

Oh so when our inspector did get there at the appointed time, over 300 men on the job, he found some violations, nothing major, we corrected them all and got a clean bill of health and a pat on the back, job well done...despite what the lawyers thought, that our time was now.

It all makes me wonder.... who are we, are we the worker bees trying to get the job done? are we the managers trying to insure we all do it safely? are we the apprentices, learning from the masters? Or are we the lawyers, afraid we are going to lose what we've got, and try to tell others they are doing wrong?

Seems to me, the inspector knows best, and despite all the rhetoric, he'll be here when the times right...we just need to keep buildin and just maybe he's workin with us right now.

Naw, the Foreman on your job saw the Inspector coming for miles...he just kept it quiet and dealt with him in an even handed and transparent manner. Lawyers can't do anything to anyone that is transparent in their actions...and Inspectors love transparency, makes their job so much easier.

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lunamoth · 07-18-2006, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Quahom1

Naw, the Foreman on your job saw the Inspector coming for miles...he just kept it quiet and dealt with him in an even handed and transparent manner. Lawyers can't do anything to anyone that is transparent in their actions...and Inspectors love transparency, makes their job so much easier.

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Hi Q, I see an ocean of meaning in that response. There's got to be a personality test in there somewhere: are you a Lawyer, an Inspector, or a Foreman?

cheers,
luna