The Return of an unfamiliar Jesus?

[juantoo3]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

Not interested as to explain to you means nothing. Or simply said, i can't wait!

A reboot is coming and so far, the likes of you are on the front line!

I have a real tough time when other are short of integrity. It is probably why descriptions share one of arrogance with an ease of making pretty rough decisions. I say the truth is absolute and so far, the position you represent is clouded by theology rather than reality.

For example; if you cannot see what is happening to the people in the middle east as we speak, then how could you comprehend the relation to prophecies and what is literally occurring.

Do you consider yourself a prophet? Are you sent to teach us the error of our ways?

[mee]

Jesus has come into kingdom power but not in the way that most people think he will ,
but those who have kept awake to bible prophecy and chronology have been given insight and understanding .
and now the true knowledge is abundant ....Daniel 12 ;4 ....Jesus will not come to the earth in the flesh and blood of a man he is a reigning king in the heavenly kingdom ,Daniel 7;13-14 ...daniel 2;44.... and he is going to accomplish great things on the earth just as he is in the heavens . and even now he has many things in place to accomplish Gods purpose for the earth .

and at the end of it all he will hand the kingdom back to his father Jehovah



Next, the end, when he hands over the kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. 25 For he must rule as king until [God] has put all enemies under his feet. 26 As the last enemy, death is to be brought to nothing. 27 For [God] "subjected all things under his feet." But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.1 CORINTHIANS 15;24-28



and the best thing of all is that death will be swallowed up for everNO MORE DEATH JUST EVERLASTING LIFE ON A PARADISE EARTH



"Happy are the mild-tempered ones, since they will inherit the earth.
MATTHEW 5;5

But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,
And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace. PSALM 37;11

With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: "Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his peoples. And God himself will be with them. And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away."

REVELATION 21;3-4

He will actually swallow up death forever, and the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will certainly wipe the tears from all faces. And the reproach of his people he will take away from all the earth, for Jehovah himself has spoken [it]. ISAIAH 25;8



I AM WELCOMING THIS REIGNING KING JESUS CHRIST

its the only way to peace on the earth and its very good

[Bishadi]

Are you sent to teach us the error of our ways?

That is the difference of ‘One who made the choice’ and ‘One who was chosen’….

The dali lama was chosen.


Each man can make a choice! And the very first one should be to be absolutely honest with yourself and everything you represent as true.

The truth is absolute! Existence only operates in one form and it is our species that has caused all these tangents to what is true.

He will actually swallow up death forever

To know that what you do is your life, then in a literally sense you would have the ability to create an existence of life-ever-lasting.


The reason these 'truths' are so foreign, is that pure honesty is so 'unfamiliar.'

[mee]

The Destruction of Death.

At Isaiah 25:8 the prophetic promise is made that God "will actually swallow up death forever, and the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will certainly wipe the tears from all faces."
The sting producing death is sin (1Co 15:56), and thus all having sin and its accompanying imperfection have death working in their bodies. (Ro 7:13, 23, 24)

The abolition of death, therefore, would require the abolition of that which produces death: sin.

By the removal of the last trace of sin from obedient mankind, the authority of death will be abolished and death itself will be destroyed, and this is to be accomplished during the reign of Christ. (1Co 15:24-26) Thereby death, brought upon the human race by Adam’s transgression, "will be no more." (Ro 5:12; Re 21:3, 4) Its destruction is figuratively likened to its being hurled into a "lake of fire."—Re 20:14;

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by mee

The Destruction of Death.

At Isaiah 25:8 the prophetic promise is made that God "will actually swallow up death forever, and the Sovereign Lord Jehovah will certainly wipe the tears from all faces."
The sting producing death is sin (1Co 15:56), and thus all having sin and its accompanying imperfection have death working in their bodies. (Ro 7:13, 23, 24)

The abolition of death, therefore, would require the abolition of that which produces death: sin.

By the removal of the last trace of sin from obedient mankind, the authority of death will be abolished and death itself will be destroyed, and this is to be accomplished during the reign of Christ. (1Co 15:24-26) Thereby death, brought upon the human race by Adam’s transgression, "will be no more." (Ro 5:12; Re 21:3, 4) Its destruction is figuratively likened to its being hurled into a "lake of fire."—Re 20:14;

But yet you fib over and over and over and over again......

as to be a true believer of JC's teachings, then never would you fib....

so the question is, have you seen these things or are you witnessing the created lies of 1914 when even the 2 who began JW broke up based on differences?

[Bishadi]

maybe learn the lesson of the sparrow

And be not afraid of those killing the body, and are not able to kill the soul, but fear rather Him who is able both soul and body to destroy in gehenna.

It is the liar that steals your soul... as to convey the lies, you kill yourself!

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

That is the difference of ‘One who made the choice’ and ‘One who was chosen’….

The dali lama was chosen.


Each man can make a choice! And the very first one should be to be absolutely honest with yourself and everything you represent as true.

The truth is absolute! Existence only operates in one form and it is our species that has caused all these tangents to what is true.



To know that what you do is your life, then in a literally sense you would have the ability to create an existence of life-ever-lasting.


The reason these 'truths' are so foreign, is that pure honesty is so 'unfamiliar.'

Truth is "absolute"? To the Germans, truth was absolute in 1933. They were the chosen. So they chose to destroy the world and remake it in their image. In 1941 the Americans saw truth a different way, so they sought to put a stop to the Germans' vision of "truth". Guess who won out?

Man's "truth" is as fleeting as the weather. That includes philosophy. Jesus made it clear...there is only one truth that is inalienable. That is God's truth. Follow that "truth" and man can not go wrong. I hate when humans talk smack about truth (like they know more than everyone else). I know natural truth (the pain of this world), and am learning God's truth (a much better way of life/existing). I suggest you try to learn the same.

v/r

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[Bishadi]

Truth is "absolute"?

Yes. As anything else is an opinion or of a down right, fib, no exception. That means any words or representation any person can make.

To the Germans, truth was absolute in 1933. They were the chosen.

2 facts to look at…. One they assembled the ‘chosen ones’ (Jewish) per religious representations and then without the germans Israel would not currently exist as she does today.

So a question stands, is it rude that the holocaust occurred or that Israel exists? It seems Russia lost over 12 million soldiers alone, and 1.2 million are fenced in at Gaza now.

So they chose to destroy the world and remake it in their image. In 1941 the Americans saw truth a different way, so they sought to put a stop to the Germans' vision of "truth". Guess who won out?

Humanity sure didn’t as now that war of all wars is real close based on what is occurring in the middle-east. Yet do many recognize the institution of conflict is founded in religious ideas. And even now each side says the land is theirs by god.

Man's "truth" is as fleeting as the weather. That includes philosophy. Jesus made it clear...there is only one truth that is inalienable. That is God's truth.

Correct……..and the purest representation of God is through nature!

Follow that "truth" and man can not go wrong.

I agree. Know the rules of 'existence' and be able to comprehend the truth. Man created the existence of the terms ‘phenomena’..magic…omnipotence and even the word GOD, to describe what they could not understand.

I hate when humans talk smack about truth (like they know more than everyone else).

are you a martian?….. as your opinion is quite human, even with all that emotion……. "(like they know more than everyone else)"

I know natural truth (the pain of this world)

All pain is based on your own needs/desires….. as pain attached to things is the error of the human experience. Suffering is not the rule, as suffering is self imposed.

and am learning God's truth (a much better way of life/existing).

AS if anywhere in written form the truth exists? Name one that all mankind can equally recognize as true, that is not an opinion written by man. Nature and life is what reveals the truth as God does not fib.

Sorry, as your opinion falls short of complete in knowledge, each word shares your own experience of what you understand, yet falls short of understanding. The best suggestion is to remember ‘man created all words’

I suggest you try to learn the same

and maybe use integrity to establish facts, rather than conform to beliefs

[mee]

[quote=Bishadi;145089]But yet you fib over and over and over and over again......

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the bible promises always come true and they are very good death will be swallowed up forever . that is some promise to look forward too, that is a nice promise isnt it?

[Bishadi]

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Originally Posted by Bishadi

But yet you fib over and over and over and over again......

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the bible promises always come true and they are very good death will be swallowed up forever . that is some promise to look forward too, that is a nice promise isnt it?

What we know as physical death, will always occur, as just when you sleep each night your body is not doing much of anything by choice. Or simply each night your conscious awareness of doing is out.

That 'death will be swallowed up forever' is when you can know in a literal sense, as can be equally to every soul, that what you impose to existence is a life, then you can plant a tree, contribute to make a child, teach and share knowledge; that each gift you impose to existence will still be here.

and if what you contribute is good, it will far outlive you as a person of choice (consciousness upon a body)......

These are truths... not magical hopes of things....

For example: when the truth is know, the fathers will be raised to the flesh,

well let;s do it....

If you are of the seeds of your parents, then each has a portion of their life literally alive and in you. Well then each of their parents is also alive and in you....

So then from the beginning of time, literally in you, are the lives and contributions to that life since the very beginning, each are physically alive and in the flesh as you stand.....

so now you know why it is so important to 'honor thy mother and thy father'...

[mee]

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That 'death will be swallowed up forever'

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this death will be swallowed up forever spoken of in ROMANS 5;12



That is why, just as through one man (adam) sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned.



BUT NO WORRIES

For since death is through a man,(adam) resurrection of the dead is also through a man.(Jesus) For just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive ....
I CORINTHIANS 15;21-22....

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by mee

this death will be swallowed up forever spoken of in ROMANS 5;12



That is why, just as through one man (adam) sin entered into the world and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned.



BUT NO WORRIES

For since death is through a man,(adam) resurrection of the dead is also through a man.(Jesus) For just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive ....
I CORINTHIANS 15;21-22....

But you suggested in 1914, jesus came and that is how you know Jehovah by name.....

yet people are still dying..........

so I guess, JC did not return and that witnessing is pretty thin....

[mee]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

But you suggested in 1914, jesus came and that is how you know Jehovah by name.....

yet people are still dying..........

so I guess, JC did not return and that witnessing is pretty thin....

In 1914 Jesus recieved his kingship in the heavenly kingdom Daniel 7;13-14 Daniel 2;44 and now we are well along into bible prophecy , and at the end of all the things to be acomplished death will have been swallowed up for ever
1 corinthians 15;24-28

Next, the end, when he hands over the kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. 25 For he must rule as king until [God] has put all enemies under his feet. 26 As the last enemy, death is to be brought to nothing. 27 For [God] "subjected all things under his feet." But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that it is with the exception of the one who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.



yes the last enemy death is going to be brought to nothing

[Bishadi]

you still on this line of thought but fail to read further

Daniel 7 11 "Then I continued to watch because of the boastful words the horn was speaking. I kept looking until the beast was slain and its body destroyed and thrown into the blazing fire. 12 (The other beasts had been stripped of their authority, but were allowed to live for a period of time.)
13 "In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man, coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all peoples, nations and men of every language worshiped him.

Remember that was the vision

15 "I, Daniel, was troubled in spirit, and the visions that passed through my mind disturbed me. 16 I approached one of those standing there and asked him the true meaning of all this.
"So he told me and gave me the interpretation of these things:

and to that portion you quote

26 " 'But the court will sit, and his power will be taken away and completely destroyed forever. 27 Then the sovereignty, power and greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven will be handed over to the saints, the people of the Most High. His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all rulers will worship and obey him.'

Note how one side is destroyed. and the final peace is when

""""Then the sovereignty, power and greatness of the kingdoms under the whole heaven will be handed over to the saints, the people of the Most High""""


"The People...".. as the 'knowledge of existence' is the highest pinnacle of our species enabling that ever lasting peace... The conflict here is in your idea, that magic will be what brings Peace when basic common sense shares that knowledge is the only thing that will.

As it is real easy to see why christian theology suggests that him with "understanding' is the adversary, as then each man can be equal and the leadership of the religions will be over.


28 "This is the end of the matter

[mee]

daniel 12;4 true knowledge is now abundant



And as for you, O Daniel, make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of [the] end. Many will rove about, and the [true] knowledge will become abundant."


its all happening in the time of the end , especially since 1914 when Jesus recieved kingship .