| Christianity Christian issues and discussions of Christianity. |
04-23-2008, 04:45 PM
|
#91 (permalink)
|
|
Interfaith Forums
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Valley of the Sun
Posts: 837
|
Re: The Return of an unfamiliar Jesus?
Quote:
Originally Posted by mee
daniel 12;4 true knowledge is now abundant
And as for you, O Daniel, make secret the words and seal up the book, until the time of [the] end. Many will rove about, and the [true] knowledge will become abundant."
its all happening in the time of the end , especially since 1914 when Jesus recieved kingship .
|
seems maybe the meanings from you are biased
Quote:
|
Daniel 12:4 </SPAN>And thou, O Daniel, hide the things, and seal the book till the time of the end, many do go to and fro, and knowledge is multiplied.'
|
1914, was not the ‘time of the end’
how many generations have lived since?
So when knowledge is founded to existence a complete change will roll through the earth’s people. (something about 'light' hint hint) That is probably a good time to see the 'end times' are approaching
Quote:
|
5 And I have looked -- I, Daniel -- and lo, two others are standing, one here at the edge of the flood, and one there at the edge of the flood,
|
Quote:
6 and he saith to the one clothed in linen, who [is] upon the waters of the flood, `Till when [is] the end of these wonders?'
7And I hear the one clothed in linen, who [is] upon the waters of the flood, and he doth lift up his right hand and his left unto the heavens, and sweareth by Him who is living to the age, that, `After a time, times, and a half, and at the completion of the scattering of the power of the holy people, finished are all these.'
|
And the religions will fall!
As knowledge of truth needs no submission to misleading hopes.
Quote:
|
8 And I have heard, and I do not understand, and I say, `O my lord, what [is] the latter end of these?'
|
Quote:
|
9And he saith, `Go, Daniel; for hidden and sealed [are] the things till the time of the end;
|
Was 1914 the end? Nope!.....
Quote:
|
10 Purify themselves, yea, make themselves white, yea, refined are many: and the wicked have done wickedly, and none of the wicked understand, and those acting wisely do understand;
|
So use your head when you observe knowledge, use your wisdom to comprehend rather than continue the furtherance of the misgivings of hope within faith.
The choice to convey what you do not have the ability to prove as fact, is wicked!
Wisdom is based on true experience and knowledge!
So it seems your integrity has you in a dilemma; lying to yourself about what is true, has you on the opposing side of true understanding.
Remember when the truth stands firm, the religions fall.
As the true knowledge is available to all then each is equally capable of transcending from ignorance.
|
|
|
04-24-2008, 05:45 PM
|
#92 (permalink)
|
|
Interfaith Forums
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,363
|
Re: The Return of an unfamiliar Jesus?
[quote=Bishadi;145489]
1914, was not the ‘time of the end’
Was 1914 the end? Nope!.....
quote]
1914 was the START of the last days .
it was the time of the end for manmade goverments and rulerships,
and now we are well along into the time of the end . yes 1914 was the START of the last days
|
|
|
04-24-2008, 07:30 PM
|
#93 (permalink)
|
|
Interfaith Forums
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Valley of the Sun
Posts: 837
|
Re: The Return of an unfamiliar Jesus?
[quote=mee;145560]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bishadi
1914, was not the ‘time of the end’
Was 1914 the end? Nope!.....
quote]
1914 was the START of the last days .
it was the time of the end for manmade goverments and rulerships,
and now we are well along into the time of the end . yes 1914 was the START of the last days
|
So is JC walking around?
Is he carrying a 'book of life?'
What day is the rapture?
Where is the knowledge to combine all mankind?
When will all of Charles Manson's sins, be undone (forgiven; as he confessed)?
And if the JW gang exceeded 144k as suggested back in the early 1900's then does that mean, you have no chair?
What about the 1/3 of mankind passing to horrible 'hell on earth' .....'fire from the sky' and all them plagues going to hit?
And can someone please stop that 7 headed dragon from eating all them seals?
or is it opening seals?
It seems maybe what you seek is closer than you think, and yet quite 'unfamiliar."
|
|
|
04-25-2008, 08:25 AM
|
#94 (permalink)
|
|
Interfaith Forums
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,363
|
Re: The Return of an unfamiliar Jesus?
[quote=Bishadi;145566]
Quote:
Originally Posted by mee
So is JC walking around?
Is he carrying a 'book of life?'
What day is the rapture?
Where is the knowledge to combine all mankind?
When will all of Charles Manson's sins, be undone (forgiven; as he confessed)?
And if the JW gang exceeded 144k as suggested back in the early 1900's then does that mean, you have no chair?
What about the 1/3 of mankind passing to horrible 'hell on earth' .....'fire from the sky' and all them plagues going to hit?
And can someone please stop that 7 headed dragon from eating all them seals?
or is it opening seals?
It seems maybe what you seek is closer than you think, and yet quite 'unfamiliar."
|
you seem to have many unanswered questions, but those who have taken in accurate knowledge of the bible will find that they are really well fed in a spiritual way , and this is how that accurate knowledge starts off.
This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ. JOHN 17;3
YES THE ANSWERS ARE ALL IN THE BIBLE
and gaining an accurate knowledge about what the bible REALLY teaches will get us on the road to life .
Taste and see that JEHOVAH is good.
Taste and see that Jehovah is good, O YOU people;
Happy is the able-bodied man that takes refuge in him.
psalm 34;8
What Does the Bible Really Teach?
The Bible provides the key to your enjoying a truly satisfying life. It can help you to deal with problems. Would you like to find out what the Bible really teaches? This book will help you. 224 pages.
and yes JEHOVAH provides many good things .
yes in these last days provisions indeed are abundant for those who are willing to be fed by the channel that Jesus is feeding .
and the channel is the one in MATTHEW 24;45-47 and they are FAITHFUL indeed .
and they feed mee very well ,and it is very good food indeed . it is good bible based food .
and it is very good 
The New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures
It has a concordance, marginal references, an appendix, and maps; hard black cover with gilt-embossed title; special Bible paper; over 1,600 pages
if you taste and see that JEHOVAH is good 
Not only will you have a relationship with Jehovah that becomes a haven of security now but you will also have the precious hope of living forever in Paradise, where you will find "exquisite delight in the abundance of peace."—Psalm 37:11, 29.
|
|
|
04-25-2008, 06:09 PM
|
#95 (permalink)
|
|
Interfaith Forums
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Valley of the Sun
Posts: 837
|
Re: The Return of an unfamiliar Jesus?
Quote:
14I have kept silent from of old, I keep silent, I refrain myself, As a travailing woman I cry out, I desolate and swallow up together.
15I make waste mountains and hills, And all their herbs I dry up, And I have made rivers become isles, And ponds I dry up.
16And I have caused the blind to go, In a way they have not known, In paths they have not known I cause them to tread, I make a dark place before them become light, And unlevelled places become a plain, These [are] the things I have done to them, And I have not forsaken them.
17Removed backward -- utterly ashamed, Are those trusting in a graven image, Those saying to a molten image, `Ye [are] our gods.'
18Ye deaf, hear; and ye blind, look to see.
19Who [is] blind but My servant? And deaf as My messenger I send? Who [is] blind as he who is at peace, Yea, blind, as the servant of Jehovah?
20Seeing many things, and thou observest not, Opening ears, and he heareth not.
|
Peace will come from the knowledge of 'light'............. simply observe what is true
|
|
|
04-25-2008, 06:48 PM
|
#96 (permalink)
|
|
Interfaith Forums
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,363
|
Re: The Return of an unfamiliar Jesus?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bishadi
Peace will come from the knowledge of 'light'............. simply observe what is true 
|
Source of Knowledge.
Jehovah is actually the basic Source of knowledge.
Jesus stressed the importance of truly knowing him and his Father, and knowledge is repeatedly emphasized in the books of the Christian Greek Scriptures.—Joh 17:3; Php 1:9; 2Pe 3:18.
The Bible repeatedly links Jehovah and knowledge, calling him "a God of knowledge" and describing him as "perfect in knowledge."—1Sa 2:3; Job 36:4; 37:14, 16.
The role that Jehovah has assigned to his Son in the outworking of His purposes is of such importance that it can be said of Jesus: "Carefully concealed in him are all the treasures of wisdom and of knowledge." (Col 2:3)
|
|
|
04-25-2008, 08:29 PM
|
#97 (permalink)
|
|
Interfaith Forums
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Valley of the Sun
Posts: 837
|
Re: The Return of an unfamiliar Jesus?
Quote:
Originally Posted by mee
Source of Knowledge.
Jehovah is actually the basic Source of knowledge.
Jesus stressed the importance of truly knowing him and his Father, and knowledge is repeatedly emphasized in the books of the Christian Greek Scriptures.—Joh 17:3; Php 1:9; 2Pe 3:18.
The Bible repeatedly links Jehovah and knowledge, calling him "a God of knowledge" and describing him as "perfect in knowledge."—1Sa 2:3; Job 36:4; 37:14, 16.
The role that Jehovah has assigned to his Son in the outworking of His purposes is of such importance that it can be said of Jesus: "Carefully concealed in him are all the treasures of wisdom and of knowledge." (Col 2:3)
|
Hey they call the last Buddha the 'king of knowledge' also......
Quote:
24 "This is what the LORD says—
your Redeemer, who formed you in the womb:
I am the LORD,
who has made all things,
who alone stretched out the heavens,
who spread out the earth by myself,
25 who foils the signs of false prophets
and makes fools of diviners,
who overthrows the learning of the wise
and turns it into nonsense,
26 who carries out the words of his servants
and fulfills the predictions of his messengers
|
Now to observe all of existence as God. That means all things including knowledge of each branch of mankind. Not just what a single sect (1914 and
a bunch of mee me posts) but of honoring each of the children (banches) of mankind.
Many have misleading ideas; which will be ended.
Fools are to be made of the preachers of faith and magical blessings confined to the doctrines of religious teachings.
Those who convey religion as being the form of wisdom; shall find the nonsense never offered the children peace.
Each can be a messenger by choice; be true to existence and represent what is pure.
|
|
|
04-27-2008, 03:37 PM
|
#98 (permalink)
|
|
Interfaith Forums
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,363
|
Re: The Return of an unfamiliar Jesus?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bishadi
Each can be a messenger by choice represent what is pure.
|
 very true indeed .
i have found the way and it is very good .
"My Sheep Listen to My Voice, . . . and They Follow Me." (John 10:27)
this is the way walk in it my people .
and they will be well fed in abundance matthew 24;45-47
and its all good food
This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ. john 17;3
its all in the bible , and the bible tells us who the true God is .
That people may know that you, whose name is Jehovah,
You alone are the Most High over all the earth.psalm 83;18
|
|
|
04-27-2008, 04:16 PM
|
#99 (permalink)
|
|
Rider on the storm...
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Edinburgh, scotland
Posts: 5,246
|
Re: The Return of an unfamiliar Jesus?
A shame that its wolves in charge of the flocks.
|
|
|
04-27-2008, 05:10 PM
|
#100 (permalink)
|
|
Interfaith Forums
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,363
|
Re: The Return of an unfamiliar Jesus?
A wolf or wolfish person is an enemy not only of the sheep but also of their Right Shepherd. The wolf does not gather the sheep with the shepherd but scatters them; he is not for the Right Shepherd Jesus but against him. (Luke 11:23)
Apostles Die, and Apostasy Develops
The apostles of Jesus Christ acted as a restraint against this apostasy for as long as they lived.
After the death of the apostles, however, religious leaders using "every powerful work and lying signs and portents and . . . every unrighteous deception" in order to mislead many turned more and more people away from the truths taught by Jesus and his apostles. (2 Thessalonians 2:3, 6-12)
but no worries ,now in these the last days true worship is restored.
and the true congregation has loving shepherds who are helping to gather a GREAT CROWD REVELATION 7;9-10
lots of gathering going on and not a wolf insight.
|
|
|
04-27-2008, 05:21 PM
|
#101 (permalink)
|
|
Interfaith Forums
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Valley of the Sun
Posts: 837
|
Re: The Return of an unfamiliar Jesus?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tao_Equus
A shame that its wolves in charge of the flocks.
|
Yet even the Pope goes to the doctor.
Supposed to be the closest man to God in catholism, yet relies on the collective knowledge of 'alchemist' who had to hide to survive during the reign of the inquisitions.
Just as our mee me (wolf) continues to misrepresent a religious teaching, unnoticed among sheep.
Quote:
|
11As a dog hath returned to its vomit, A fool is repeating his folly.
|
The selfishness of representing what is not understood is like 'wolf in sheeps clothing.'
Not concerned of his own demise but willing to prey upon the meak all the same.
|
|
|
04-27-2008, 07:02 PM
|
#102 (permalink)
|
|
What was the question?
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Maryland
Posts: 9,060
|
Re: The Return of an unfamiliar Jesus?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bishadi
Yet even the Pope goes to the doctor.
Supposed to be the closest man to God in catholism, yet relies on the collective knowledge of 'alchemist' who had to hide to survive during the reign of the inquisitions.
Just as our mee me (wolf) continues to misrepresent a religious teaching, unnoticed among sheep.
[/font][/size]
The selfishness of representing what is not understood is like 'wolf in sheeps clothing.'
Not concerned of his own demise but willing to prey upon the meak all the same.
|
Some how I doubt mee is a wolf of any sort. At least his words aren't designed to cut to the quick, unlike yours. No, mee doesn't take great pleasure in tearing other apart. Indeed, his is like the foolish shepard attempting to call a flock together, wherein yours is a deliberate attempt to skatter the flock in disillusionment and fear.
|
|
|
04-27-2008, 07:18 PM
|
#103 (permalink)
|
|
Interfaith Forums
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Valley of the Sun
Posts: 837
|
Re: The Return of an unfamiliar Jesus?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Quahom1
Some how I doubt mee is a wolf of any sort. At least his words aren't designed to cut to the quick, unlike yours. No, mee doesn't take great pleasure in tearing other apart. Indeed, his is like the foolish shepard attempting to call a flock together, wherein yours is a deliberate attempt to skatter the flock in disillusionment and fear.
|
any who fib without responsibility to the representation is misleading any exposed to the ill regard; a wolf in sheeps clothing; representing a fib with no concern but for their own ideas of the truth.
difference is one actually does the homework an one does not. Like a nurse in relation to the doctor and you are the patient with a brain tumor.
Which do you prefer? One that sounds and looks good or the truth no matter how ugly?
To observe the scriptures with true kindness and compassion, then the truth reveals itself, to remain complacent to an ideology of self and isolating secularisms, then ill regard continues.
Seems that to remain honest and an intent towards the truth, just might make the decietful feel cornered with responsibility.
Do you have a guilty conscious?
|
|
|
04-27-2008, 11:27 PM
|
#104 (permalink)
|
|
What was the question?
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Maryland
Posts: 9,060
|
Re: The Return of an unfamiliar Jesus?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bishadi
any who fib without responsibility to the representation is misleading any exposed to the ill regard; a wolf in sheeps clothing; representing a fib with no concern but for their own ideas of the truth.
difference is one actually does the homework an one does not. Like a nurse in relation to the doctor and you are the patient with a brain tumor.
Which do you prefer? One that sounds and looks good or the truth no matter how ugly?
To observe the scriptures with true kindness and compassion, then the truth reveals itself, to remain complacent to an ideology of self and isolating secularisms, then ill regard continues.
Seems that to remain honest and an intent towards the truth, just might make the decietful feel cornered with responsibility.
Do you have a guilty conscious?
|
what a fool.
|
|
|
04-28-2008, 11:21 AM
|
#105 (permalink)
|
|
Interfaith Forums
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 6,363
|
Re: The Return of an unfamiliar Jesus?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bishadi
Just as our mee me (wolf) continues to misrepresent a religious teaching, unnoticed among sheep.
|
 A wolf is not interested in the teachings of Jesus , but mee loves to promote true bible teachings .
JOHN 3;16-17
matthew 24;14
MATTHEW 28;19-20
Daniel 2;44
DANIEL 7;13-14
matthew 24;45-47
matthew 5;5
revelation 7;9-10
PSALM 83;18
PSALM 37;11
REVELATION 14;1
 AND ITS ALL VERY GOOD
And I have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also I must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd. JOHN 10;16
I am working on my baaaaaaaaa i dont know how to howl like a wolf. and mee has washed that robe in the blood of the lamb , revelation 7;9-10
along with all of the other great crowd and its very good
|
|
|
| Thread Tools |
|
|
| Rate This Thread |
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT +1. The time now is 05:33 PM.
|