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 Originally Posted by Quahom1 Isn't that called, intuition?
Maybe. I employed it to disprove this last bit of "logic:"
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 "If A=C and B=C, then A must equal B".
A=2
B=-2
C=√4
2=√4 and -2=√4, but 2≠-2

But it does prove that A and B share C in common...
hmm...{The Rush to be Right...}

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 Originally Posted by seattlegal Maybe. I employed it to disprove this last bit of "logic:" A=2 B=-2 C=√4 2=√4 and -2=√4, but 2≠-2 hmm...{The Rush to be Right...}
LOL, imaginary numbers don't count. You know that as well as I.

Or, let me rephrase that, the total of 2 is 2, whether negative or positive. hence 2 equals 2, whether real or imaginary...

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 Originally Posted by Quahom1 LOL, imaginary numbers don't count. You know that as well as I.
Huh?
2˛=4
-2˛=4
√4=2˛ or -2˛

Even though 2 and -2 are not equal, they can still "square up," so to speak.
{Back to YO-ELEVEN-11's Golden Rules of logical fallacy}
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 The Golden Rules of logical fallacy 1. DO NOT JUDGE A BOOK BY ITS COVER. 2. ALWAYS EXPLORE YOUR OPTIONS. 3. DO UNTO OTHERS AS YOU WOULD HAVE THEM DO UNTO YOU. 4. TREAT OTHERS LIKE YOU WANT TO BE TREATED. 5. THERE IS ALWAYS MORE THAN ONE WAY TO SKIN A CAT 6. ONE PERSONS TREASURE MAY BE ANOTHER PERSONS TRASH.
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 Originally Posted by Q Or, let me rephrase that, the total of 2 is 2, whether negative or positive. hence 2 equals 2, whether real or imaginary...
Oh, "the terrible two's"

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 Originally Posted by Quahom1 Opinions are exclusive. Logic is universal. How it is applied may be for exclusive purposes, however, the process is still universal... "If A=C and B=C, then A must equal B".
Uless A AND B are married and then things change drastically.
Then when A AND B get divorced B gets the hosue and kids and alimony and...well you get the picture. ..Which is "Logic" on steroids.

 09-06-2006, 09:42 PM #65 (permalink) Oannes     Join Date: May 2006 Location: SW United States Posts: 2,612 Re: The Rush To Be Right Dear Col. Klink and Sgt. Schultz... The script says that you are only to say... " I hear nothink ! I see nothink ! I know nothink ! My General isss comimk for inspection tomorrow !" Vat isss disss erzatz German schnitzel you are sayink in posts 52 & 53 ...? Best regards...Col. Hogan
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 Originally Posted by seattlegal Huh? 2˛=4 -2˛=4 √4=2˛ or -2˛ Even though 2 and -2 are not equal, they can still "square up," so to speak. {Back to YO-ELEVEN-11's Golden Rules of logical fallacy} Oh, "the terrible two's"
2 and -2 carry the same number value (2). So, my original point stands. "imaginary numbers don't count"...

For example, a vessel that normally carries a 13 foot draft at the waterline, is at 11 feet at the waterline, we say it has a negative 2 foot draft. Which means it can not safely sail under normal conditions. Doesn't mean it is in never never land, only that it is minus the safety margine for sailing by 2 feet. It is too light to sail, by 2 feet of draft. Why? Because a negative 2 foot draft raises the metacenter of the ship by 20 feet, and lessens the righting arm by 10 feet. (In short the ship is top heavy, and may not right itself if subjected to a hard wind blow, or heavy water broad side).

Funny that you would pick the most basic and promenant of "prime numbers" to state your point...

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 Originally Posted by flowperson Dear Col. Klink and Sgt. Schultz... The script says that you are only to say... " I hear nothink ! I see nothink ! I know nothink ! My General isss comimk for inspection tomorrow !" Vat isss disss erzatz German schnitzel you are sayink in posts 52 & 53 ...? Best regards...Col. Hogan
Oh, what we were saying is "Savoir faire, is everywhere"... we just stay on the sidelines mostly.

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 Originally Posted by Quahom1 2 and -2 carry the same number value (2). So, my original point stands. "imaginary numbers don't count"...
LOL!

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 For example, a vessel that normally carries a 13 foot draft at the waterline, is at 11 feet at the waterline, we say it has a negative 2 foot draft. Which means it can not safely sail under normal conditions. Doesn't mean it is in never never land, only that it is minus the safety margine for sailing by 2 feet. It is too light to sail, by 2 feet of draft. Why? Because a negative 2 foot draft raises the metacenter of the ship by 20 feet, and lessens the righting arm by 10 feet. (In short the ship is top heavy, and may not right itself if subjected to a hard wind blow, or heavy water broad side).
OK...so 2 and -2 are not the same. A positive 2 foot draft would have a much different effect, no?
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 Funny that you would pick the most basic and promenant of "prime numbers" to state your point...
Do you mean funny as in "odd?" {Odd thing is that 2 is the only "even" prime number. You know, "an even keel for balance?"}

 09-06-2006, 10:16 PM #69 (permalink) at peace     Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Texas Posts: 3,267 Re: The Rush To Be Right LMAO! Not quite sure exactly why, but LMAO, anyway...
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That's logical transcendance for you!

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 Originally Posted by Seattlegal Quote: Originally Posted by InLove LMAO! Not quite sure exactly why, but LMAO, anyway... That's logical transcendance for you!
Yeah, but I should have used the German--ROFL.. Gosh, philosophy is fun! Carry on, colonel....

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 Originally Posted by seattlegal LOL! OK...so 2 and -2 are not the same. A positive 2 foot draft would have a much different effect, no? Do you mean funny as in "odd?" {Odd thing is that 2 is the only "even" prime number. You know, "an even keel for balance?"}
Oh yeah, a positive 2 foot draft would increase stability (and lower the metacenter, and increase the righting arm movement). What you give up is freeboard (less bouyancy).

Odd, is correct, and that was the point of my "simplest of prime numbers" Odd is never simple...

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 Originally Posted by YO-ELEVEN-11 Uless A AND B are married and then things change drastically. Then when A AND B get divorced B gets the hosue and kids and alimony and...well you get the picture. ..Which is "Logic" on steroids.
But divorce is not logical. Working out the problems is...

With rare exception, any marriage can be salvaged, managed, saved. Splitting a "whole" makes no sense at all. (In most cases).

been there, done that, hard work, but it works. Just apply the math, and don't "RUSH TO BE RIGHT".

(oh, I believe I just got us back on the original point of this thread...)

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 Originally Posted by Quahom1 But divorce is not logical. Working out the problems is... With rare exception, any marriage can be salvaged, managed, saved. Splitting a "whole" makes no sense at all. (In most cases). been there, done that, hard work, but it works. Just apply the math, and don't "RUSH TO BE RIGHT". (oh, I believe I just got us back on the original point of this thread...) v/r Q
Seems "The Rush to be Wrong" helps in some situations.

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 Originally Posted by Quahom1 2 and -2 carry the same number value (2). So, my original point stands. "imaginary numbers don't count"...
I don't think that that is an imaginary number, as far as I remember i=√-1. The square root of any positive number has two possible values, a negative and a positive one with the same base/module.

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