The Tabernacle

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by juantoo3

Go Bandit! Go Bandit!

Just thought I would let you know I have really appreciated this thread! You guys (Poh too) have done a great job with this one!

I can't wait 'til you guys get to the breastplate and the gemstones!

hey Juan!
glad to see you jump in here. i am enjoying this as well.

we must have a breastplate with the 12 tribes (names) engraved on the gemstones for the High Priest.
this is an interesting take on that from a zodiac perspective. i dont know if zodiac actually mingles with Jewish tradition that way but it is still something to consider.
NOTE: i believe it was the 12 tribes that were engraved on the stones & not zodiac, but it makes a nice comparison to be able to relate to.

http://www.lexiline.com/lexiline/lexi25.htm

Jewish tradition knows the sign of the zodiac attributed to each tribe, so we can infer which tribe to which jewel. However, the names and zodiacal standards of the tribes were probably assigned after the settlement in Canaan, hence the signatures on the jewels must have been the signs of the zodiac.

By the way- we need a high priest for this, so if there are any takers please feel free, otherwise i will nominate Juantoo3 & I Brian for test mode.

Lord knows if go inside the whole thing would probably collapse.

[pohaikawahine]

Originally Posted by Bandit

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I bet a lot of people wanted to see inside of the tabernacle even though no one really ever went inside, except for the priests. if i were there, i would have at least peeked inside of the first chamber from time to time

Please- if i make any mistakes on this (which i am sure i will!), do correct me & tell me what you see & what is missing, because i want the Tabernacle to be perfect, inside & out.

this is going so well and I'm not sure where to start, but start I will .... and bandit, you are perfect inside and out therefore the tabernacle is perfect inside and out .... that's the way I see it in the symbols and that is what I hope to draw the parallels to in the inner meanings of the structure of the tabernacle .... as always others may not see it this way, but all I can do is share the symbols as I see them (and a few others that I will use as references for this thread) ....

first you may want to check out this site (it is very long but this is one of the sections on the brain and the tabernacle .... www.hiddenmeanings.com/brain.html in a nutshell he walks you through biblical references and a basic structure of the brain and starts with:

"Exodus 26:33 says the tabernalce must be built with an outer room called the holy place, an inner room called the holy of holies, and the holy place and the holy of holies must be separated from each other by a curtain or veil.

The human brain has an outer covering called dura mater (hard mother), an inner most sensitive area called pia mater (tender mother). dura mater and pia mater are separated from each other by arachnoid, the web, or veil, or cutrain....

Let us enter the tabernacle and let us enter the brain. The first thing we see as we enter the tabernalce is cherubim. The first thing we see as we enter the brain is cerebrum. See the word cerebrum, that root 'cere' means 'to cover' and what was the responsibility of the cherubim of the temple? Exodus 25:20 "and the cherubims shall stretch forth their wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings"..."

there is much more but this gives you a general idea .... it is based not only on symbols but also the root meaning of words .... now this is important because, although I don't understand Hebrew myself, it is and important part of the knowledge of the letters in Hebrew as well as the spoken language that the root meanings are core to the teachings ....

in the Hawaiian language the root meanings go to the most basic of concepts and every word spoken carries "mana" or power of the spoken word .... that is why words are only spoken when the heart, mind and vocal cords are in harmony and balanced .... the root of each vowel (in the hawaiian language) is the essence of the word .... 'a' represents the sun, 'e' represents the winds, 'i' represents the waters, 'o' represents the earth, and 'u' represents the human spirit, the ability to call together all the elements .... I was told many, many years ago that "we hold the keys to the covenant" and it is in the sounds of the vowels .... this has always been fascinating to me because when I first saw Hebrew it had not visible vowels .... somehow I always felt there was an interconnect in the two, but I'm not proficient enough in the languages to understand it completely .... but all this to lay the foundation for the hidden meanings in symbols and words that will be important to seeing the tabernacle in the wilderness ....

there is also an anciet code in names .... stuard nettleton in his book or manuscript "the alchemy key" speaks to Solomon and says " 'conquering gods their title take, from the foes they captive make' and that the Kabbalah observes this formula throughout. It allows us to understand the linguistic form of Solomon. Breaking names into meaningful syllables is the priestly language also known as the 'Language of the Birds.' It renders the name Solomon as 'Sol-Om-On.' " I introduce this here because the concept of the 'language of the birds' may become important (am not sure yet) .... but my own hawaiian name 'pohaikawahine' which translates as "a circle of women" is also connected to what are referred to as the "twelve bird women of moloka'i" symbolically and they were the holders of the ancient codes .... you will not find anything written on them as they remain kapu for now ....so no use doing a web search ....

this is all foundation for seeking the inner meanings as we proceed on this path .... another reference to keep in mind are the numbers and here is another quote from stuard nettleton's manuscript .... he uses three verses from the sojourn into the desert (Exodus 14:19-21) and believes that these verses encode the seventy-two-letter name of God (of ocurse you will have to read them in Hebrew) ...

"And the angel of God, which went before the camp of Israel, removed and went behind them; and the pillar of the cloud went from before their face, and stood behind them."

"And it came between the camp of the Egyptians and the camp of Israel; and it was a cloud and darkness to them, but it gave light by night to thses; so that the one came not near the other all night."

"And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the Lord caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night,and made the sea dry land,and the waters were divided.""

He says "Each of these three verses in Hebrew contains exactly seventy-two letters. The seventy-two triplets of the great Name derive from one letter taken from each verse. The Bachir outlines the process of constructing the Name. The letters of the first verse apply in direct order; those of the second in reverse order, and those of the third verse in direct order. The first triplet is W (Vav) H (He) W (Vav)."

So we will try to deal with the relationship of the structure to other structures including the brain, the symbol of colors, the inner meaning of words and letters, and directions and numbers .... every part of the tabernacle must follow the pattern laid out in order to build the replica .... but the question will be lingering, is the reconstruction of the tabernacle a blueprint for understanding another inner knowledge that we must seek in order to reconstruct the third temple .... and (my favorite) as the Hopi Indian say will this be the "time in which we meet ourselves" .....

maybe we will have a sneak preview and bandit you can take a peek behind the curtain ....

he hawai'i au, pohaikawahine "poh"

[truthseeker]

This is beautiful. Just found this board. This thread is so refreshing and inviting. How peaceful. Thanks so much.....

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by truthseeker

This is beautiful. Just found this board. This thread is so refreshing and inviting. How peaceful. Thanks so much.....

it is fascinating Truthseeker . it goes so far beyond my comprehension that i just marvel & ponder so many neat things.

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by pohaikawahine

this is going so well and I'm not sure where to start, but start I will .... and bandit, you are perfect inside and out therefore the tabernacle is perfect inside and out .... that's the way I see it in the symbols and that is what I hope to draw the parallels to in the inner meanings of the structure of the tabernacle .... as always others may not see it this way, but all I can do is share the symbols as I see them (and a few others that I will use as references for this thread) ....

first you may want to check out this site (it is very long but this is one of the sections on the brain and the tabernacle .... www.hiddenmeanings.com/brain.html in a nutshell he walks you through biblical references and a basic structure of the brain and starts with:

i will be checking that site often & have added it to my favorites under Tabernacle. thanks for putting it up for me. i see where you are going with some of this now, as i did awhile back with the pineal. i found the fornix the most intriguing.

What I am going to propose to you is the consideration that this fornix is the vault or burial place of Christ from where he resurrects and rises to the right side when we allow the energy to flow as it is intended. I will propose to you that only this Christ or Krishna or God energy can flow through the fornix. Nothing else can go there. It will show you the complete futility of trying to use religion, or ritual, or doctrine to find God since none of that can in any way take us in and out of the fornix.

Originally Posted by pohaikawahine

Let us enter the tabernacle and let us enter the brain. The first thing we see as we enter the tabernalce is cherubim. The first thing we see as we enter the brain is cerebrum. See the word cerebrum, that root 'cere' means 'to cover' and what was the responsibility of the cherubim of the temple? Exodus 25:20 "and the cherubims shall stretch forth their wings on high, covering the mercy seat with their wings"..."

i see the connection there with cerebrum. but i am not sure if it is the first thing because they were in the second chamber & they only went inside of that part once a year. if you entered from the backside, then the cheribums are what you would see. in reality there was no way to get to it without going from wash basin & into the first chamber because you would die if you tried that.
i guess since we are going in through back side, (pretty risky) then it makes sense.
interesting indeed!

there is much more but this gives you a general idea .... it is based not only on symbols but also the root meaning of words .... now this is important because, although I don't understand Hebrew myself, it is and important part of the knowledge of the letters in Hebrew as well as the spoken language that the root meanings are core to the teachings ....

yes. i do see the importance of that.

Originally Posted by pohaikawahine

in the Hawaiian language the root meanings go to the most basic of concepts and every word spoken carries "mana" or power of the spoken word .... that is why words are only spoken when the heart, mind and vocal cords are in harmony and balanced .... the root of each vowel (in the hawaiian language) is the essence of the word .... 'a' represents the sun, 'e' represents the winds, 'i' represents the waters, 'o' represents the earth, and 'u' represents the human spirit, the ability to call together all the elements .... I was told many, many years ago that "we hold the keys to the covenant" and it is in the sounds of the vowels .... this has always been fascinating to me because when I first saw Hebrew it had not visible vowels .... somehow I always felt there was an interconnect in the two, but I'm not proficient enough in the languages to understand it completely .... but all this to lay the foundation for the hidden meanings in symbols and words that will be important to seeing the tabernacle in the wilderness ...."

i feel the same about hebrew language, especially when so many things are pronounced with ckckkcc, kind of like clearing your throat. my Aunt & i have studied some of this before but we get frustrated. she is good with symbols & numbers & says if we can figure out the whole Tabernacle, then we will be able to see the whole plan of God from beginning to end. i see wisdom in that & i tend to agree with her.

there is also an anciet code in names .... stuard nettleton in his book or manuscript "the alchemy key" speaks to Solomon and says " 'conquering gods their title take, from the foes they captive make' and that the Kabbalah observes this formula throughout. It allows us to understand the linguistic form of Solomon. Breaking names into meaningful syllables is the priestly language also known as the 'Language of the Birds.' It renders the name Solomon as 'Sol-Om-On.' " I introduce this here because the concept of the 'language of the birds' may become important (am not sure yet) .... but my own hawaiian name 'pohaikawahine' which translates as "a circle of women" is also connected to what are referred to as the "twelve bird women of moloka'i" symbolically and they were the holders of the ancient codes .... you will not find anything written on them as they remain kapu for now ....so no use doing a web search ....

not sure either but i know the songs of solomon speak of the turtle doves & a time for singing of the birds in the spring.

Originally Posted by pohaikawahine

"And the angel of God, which went before the camp of Israel, removed and went behind them; and the pillar of the cloud went from before their face, and stood behind them."

"And it came between the camp of the Egyptians and the camp of Israel; and it was a cloud and darkness to them, but it gave light by night to thses; so that the one came not near the other all night."

"And Moses stretched out his hand over the sea; and the Lord caused the sea to go back by a strong east wind all that night,and made the sea dry land,and the waters were divided.""

He says "Each of these three verses in Hebrew contains exactly seventy-two letters. The seventy-two triplets of the great Name derive from one letter taken from each verse. The Bachir outlines the process of constructing the Name. The letters of the first verse apply in direct order; those of the second in reverse order, and those of the third verse in direct order. The first triplet is W (Vav) H (He) W (Vav)." "

i watched a special on TV, where the orthodox Jews were finding some of these things in the scriptures. it was real intense & a lot of it made sense. but some of them starting using it to suggest predictions (or at least wondering) & that is where i kind of got lost. but it was cool because they did not say that is what it means for sure...just a possibility. there is no doubt the scriptures are inspired by God because the flowing poetry, unity & harmony with the distance in time could come from no other, than the Almighty. the pillar of cloud is one of the most intriguing things & how it was always there. not sure if i understand the 72 part & triplets & great Name, but i see power & deliverance in those scriptures. i would have been in such awe to see that manifestation of God.

Originally Posted by pohaikawahine

So we will try to deal with the relationship of the structure to other structures including the brain, the symbol of colors, the inner meaning of words and letters, and directions and numbers .... every part of the tabernacle must follow the pattern laid out in order to build the replica .... but the question will be lingering, is the reconstruction of the tabernacle a blueprint for understanding another inner knowledge that we must seek in order to reconstruct the third temple .... and (my favorite) as the Hopi Indian say will this be the "time in which we meet ourselves" .....

maybe we will have a sneak preview and bandit you can take a peek behind the curtain ....

he hawai'i au, pohaikawahine "poh"

sounds real good to me & this post was a good eye opener, so now i can see where you are going with it. we can peek inside the curtain but if we peek inside the Holy of Holies section, you go first

"time in which we meet ourselves" yes i agree... & time when we meet God too.

[pohaikawahine]

bandit - you are so funny .... don't be afraid of the holy of holies, we will enter together and I will hold your hand .... here is another site that I think will be helpful on this thread .... the arrangement of the camp in the wilderness from Numbers 2 www.bibleexplained.com/moses/Numb/nu02.htm .... aloha nui, poh

[bananabrain]

poh and others,

you may be interested in mary douglas' "leviticus as literature" - she covers much of this territory from an anthropological pov and is considered very authoritative.

b'shalom

bananabrain

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by bananabrain

poh and others,

you may be interested in mary douglas' "leviticus as literature" - she covers much of this territory from an anthropological pov and is considered very authoritative.

b'shalom

bananabrain

thank you for the source, BB. Mary Douglas has done a lot of homework on this & offers some links to others. interesting to note how she sees the tabernacle carried through the rest of the scriptures & that is refreshing for me.

Leviticus as Literature,

Abstract:

Exodus recounts how beautifully the tabernacle was made; the psalmist extols the house of God; but Leviticus honours it in its own style, opening with God calling Moses at the entrance to the tent of meeting, and with the tabernacle remaining throughout not just the ground and pivot of all its teaching, but the actual structure on which its literary form has been projected. The narratives (stories) in Leviticus have suggested an unexpected partitioning of the book (see previous chapter): they divide it into three unequal compartments with laws filling the spaces between them. These compartments correspond to the relative size of the chambers in the desert tabernacle built according to God’s instructions in Exodus, and the result is to project the three parts of the book onto the tripartite architecture of the tabernacle, itself modelled on the threezoned proportions of the holy mountain. When the laws have been placed, as it were, in each part of the building, as prescribed by their position in the book, they turn out to describe the contents or the actions that are supposed to be performed in the appropriate compartment, or to describe the requirements for entry into it; other markers are placed along the way to confirm the parallel. The different sections of this chapter discuss macro markers, the outer court of the tabernacle, the sanctuary, atonement and pedimental composition.

James Hoffmeir takes an in depth look also.
Author: Hoffmeier, James K.

Source: Ancient Israel in Sinai,

Abstract:

For the past two decades, the nature of ancient Israel’s origins has been debated heatedly. Much of this debate has concentrated on part of the book of Exodus and the book of Joshua. Little attention, however, has been given to the wilderness tradition, for example, the episodes set in Sinai (Exodus 16 through Numbers 20). The current study investigates the importance of the wilderness tradition to ancient Israel’s religious and social formation. The location of Mt. Sinai, Israel’s law or covenant, and the possible Egyptian origins of Israel’s desert sanctuary, the tabernacle, are explored in the light of Egyptian archaeological materials. The book further argues that the Torah’s narratives preserve accurate memories of the wilderness period as evidenced by the accuracy of geographical place names in Egypt and Sinai, and by the use of many personal names and technical terms that are of Egyptian etymology. These factors lend credibility to the authenticity sojourn in Egypt and the exodus traditions, rather than viewing them as purely ideological or literary fictions dating to 1,000 years after the events.

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by pohaikawahine

bandit - you are so funny .... don't be afraid of the holy of holies, we will enter together and I will hold your hand .... here is another site that I think will be helpful on this thread .... the arrangement of the camp in the wilderness from Numbers 2 www.bibleexplained.com/moses/Numb/nu02.htm .... aloha nui, poh

for some odd reason i was not able to save & upload that diagram properly to my photo album. However-

that site led me to find a couple of more diagrams i was looking for. this one gives an aerial view of the camp layout & a good reminder that the tribe of Judah was on the east of the Tabernacle & that there were actually 13 tribes considering Levi.

i figure it is all related

references for research:
1. Exodus 25-27, 36-38, 40.
2. Genesis 41:37-41
3. Genesis 48
4. Genesis 29, 35, 46, 49; Exodus 1; Numbers 1:1-15, 1:20-43:2; 2:7, 10, 13, 26, 34; Deuteronomy 27, 33; Joshua 13ff; Judges 5; 1 Chronicles 2:1, 2:3-8, 12, 27; Ezekiel 48, Revelation 7.
5. Numbers 2
6. Ezekiel 1:10, 10:14, Revelation 4:7 (some feel that the seraphim in Isaiah 6 are the same.
7. Numbers 2:3, 10, 18, 25.

[pohaikawahine]

Originally Posted by bananabrain

poh and others,

you may be interested in mary douglas' "leviticus as literature" - she covers much of this territory from an anthropological pov and is considered very authoritative.

b'shalom

bananabrain

mahalo nui bb for the reference .... i've ordered two of her books "leviticus as literature" and "in the wilderness" .... the second one looks really interesting also ... the book description says that

"following on from the paperback edition of leviticus as literature, this is the revised paperback of mary douglas's classical account of the book of numbers. mary douglas argues that, like leviticus, numbers is actually a highly complex book arranged in a regular ring structure which narratives and laws into 12 parts. she argues that it is only through an understnding of the ring formation of these parts that one can fully appreciate the meaning behind this complex work."

i suspect that the "circle of stones" will tie into the structure of the camps around the tabernacle .... the circle of twelve is very ancient in its symbology .... and bandit, i just read that the tribe of Levi was not counted in the number which would leave 12 .... this would make sense to me because they are closer to the center and not in the circle itself ....hmmmmm i hope i got this right ....

gotta leave for work .... back later .... aloha nui, poh

[pohaikawahine]

I noticed in the diagram of the camp layout that ox, man, eagle and lion are also placed around the center of the tabernacle and I was reading that when king david conqured jerusalem and his son king solomon built the first temple, all the elements of the tabernacle were incorporated into the newly built permanent temple .... for some crazy reason I didn't think about the sequence that the plan was laid out long before solomon and the first temple, although it should have been obvious ....does anyone know if each tribe had a particular function or role that they were responsible for .... this may, or may not, be important to their placement in the camp .... we should also be referencing back and forth to the weekly parsha since we are in exodus (literally and figuratively all of us are in exodus until we reach that place of sanctuary)....I've been receiving weekly parsha articles from both orthodox and reform groups so that I can get a broader perspective as we move through exodus ....


the concept of the 'sanctuary' is also important in my mind .... the place of refuge, safety .... on the hawaiian islands there are still remains of ancient 'sanctuary's' places in which people would go for safety from all kinds of things (even crimes).... if one could reach this place, they were protected inside .... as far as I know (besides taking place in an actual physical site) these sites are also metaphors for the inner sanctum of the brain, the holy of holies .... the place in which we find not only our sanctuary, our refuge, but our freedom .... once we find it, no one can every take it away again unless we give it away .... we change in the way we think and act before we find this place and certainly forever after ,after we find it .... it is almost impossible not to .... so if the tabernacle in the wilderness is also a metaphor for the internal process of bridging the hemispheres of the brain to find the place of revelations and visions, or the place in we which we meet g!d face to face .... every aspect of its design will give us a clue ....

regarding the breastplate and the 12 gems, I also read that there is an inside pocket that contains the two stones referred to as urim and thummim, translated as 'lights and perfections' or 'revelation and truth' .... this, again in my view, is one of the most important aspects of the priestly robes because according to one account 'the twelve stones in the breastplate were the means by which urim and thummin would exercise their functions' .... if the twelve stones are related to the twelve pairs of cranial nerves, as i suspect and think, this would be logical because it is the 12 pairs of cranial nerves that make the two hemisphers of the brain function (the two hemispheres functioning together as a whole would be the knowledge of urim and thummin as revelation and truth) .... the mormon religion also has a focus on the role of urim and thummin and they were suppose to have been used by joseph smith when he wrote the book of mormon ....

i'm trying my best to use g!d without spelling out the word .... i just received a notice from one of the groups that i subscribe to that they made a mistake in the last newsletter spelling out the name of g!d and asked everyone that printed it to bury it in accordance with laws .... since i now realize that this is important, i'm trying to not do anything that would be disrespectful ....

even in hawaiian old traditions the name of the great creator could not be uttered .... but today everyone 'utters' .... there must be a good reason but i have not come to understand it fully yet .... but i keep trying .... he hawai'i au, poh

p.s. i now have pictures of the taberncle, the layout, etc hanging all around my computer so that I can keep studying them as move through this .... I should add some of the human brain .... another question .... is the tabernacle itself called mishkan or is this only a reference to the inner chamber?

[Bandit]

Here is a replica of the breastplate we discussed earlier.

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by pohaikawahine

I noticed in the diagram of the camp layout that ox, man, eagle and lion are also placed around the center of the tabernacle and I was reading that when king david conqured jerusalem and his son king solomon built the first temple, all the elements of the tabernacle were incorporated into the newly built permanent temple .... for some crazy reason I didn't think about the sequence that the plan was laid out long before solomon and the first temple, although it should have been obvious ....does anyone know if each tribe had a particular function or role that they were responsible for .... this may, or may not, be important to their placement in the camp .... we should also be referencing back and forth to the weekly parsha since we are in exodus (literally and figuratively all of us are in exodus until we reach that place of sanctuary)....I've been receiving weekly parsha articles from both orthodox and reform groups so that I can get a broader perspective as we move through exodus .... ?

I think Levi was always around the Tabernacle & that tribe did not fight. i picked up this study at another forum as well to get more info as we go. i know others here have studied the tribes closer than I have.

right. it is the same tabernacle/temple that was incorporated into solomons temple. that is cool because everyone i talked to yesterday did not know that & had no idea what i was talking about by 'Tabernacle in the Wilderness'.

sorry, i have not been going into this weeks parsha very much, but wont let that get too behind for very long over the rest of the winter- i promise.

Originally Posted by pohaikawahine

the concept of the 'sanctuary' is also important in my mind .... the place of refuge, safety .... on the hawaiian islands there are still remains of ancient 'sanctuary's' places in which people would go for safety from all kinds of things (even crimes).... if one could reach this place, they were protected inside .... as far as I know (besides taking place in an actual physical site) these sites are also metaphors for the inner sanctum of the brain, the holy of holies .... the place in which we find not only our sanctuary, our refuge, but our freedom .... once we find it, no one can every take it away again unless we give it away .... we change in the way we think and act before we find this place and certainly forever after ,after we find it .... it is almost impossible not to .... so if the tabernacle in the wilderness is also a metaphor for the internal process of bridging the hemispheres of the brain to find the place of revelations and visions, or the place in we which we meet g!d face to face .... every aspect of its design will give us a clue ....

i'm trying my best to use g!d without spelling out the word .... i just received a notice from one of the groups that i subscribe to that they made a mistake in the last newsletter spelling out the name of g!d and asked everyone that printed it to bury it in accordance with laws .... since i now realize that this is important, i'm trying to not do anything that would be disrespectful ....

even in hawaiian old traditions the name of the great creator could not be uttered .... but today everyone 'utters' .... there must be a good reason but i have not come to understand it fully yet .... but i keep trying .... he hawai'i au, poh

p.s. i now have pictures of the taberncle, the layout, etc hanging all around my computer so that I can keep studying them as move through this .... I should add some of the human brain .... another question .... is the tabernacle itself called mishkan or is this only a reference to the inner chamber?

i actually like it when you use the brain in metaphor because I see God as the brain/mind, & we as the body of that brain.
i also agree so much with you that today this is not about being in an actual physical site any longer & how sanctuary is a refuge. But the site & all it details will indeed show us many mysteries about this sanctuary & how to get into the holy of holies.

Pohaikawahine, i went to two magor bookstores & two libraries yesterday & they did not shelve one single book dedicated strictly to the tabernacle. i have heard some say it is an outdated concept- i do not believe that for a second.
i did get a lead to a museum here in ChiTown & was directed to the main library downtown. this is a challenging topic, for sure.

i am pretty sure i will need to order some books online, just want to make sure of the authors & reputations of the books before i do that. i am also looking at videos to purchase for visual.
this is exciting to me

[pohaikawahine]

what a great close up of the breastplate where you can actually see the names inscribed on each stone (couldn't see this in the copies that I saw on-line) ....


I'm waiting for the two books that I ordered "liviticus as literature" and "in the wilderness" to see what insights they may give on the tabernacle ....

another book I'm looking at is called "the secret books of the egyptian gnostics" by jean doresse .... here are two quotes that may be interesting in the study of the tabernacle ....

from a text that is written in sahidic coptic " .... the spiritual force, before it had been manifested, its name was not this at all, but it was: Silence. For everything that was in the heavenly Paradise was sealed in silence. Those who participate in this will become spiritual and will know the Whole. "

"a long dissertation is based upon symbols derived from the structure of the Temple, of the holy of holies and the veil through which the high priest alone can pass: this is a simile which had been employed before; its symbolism had already been used to support very different arguments in the Gnostic writings of Theodotus, fragments of which have been preserved for us by Clement of Alexandria." "G!d is compared, at length, to a good dyer who blends his colours. The breath of the glassblower blowing a vase is a simile for the pneuma. The destiny of man is discussed in parallel with that of an ass turning a mill, walking miles and miles but always finding himself, for all his trouble, miserbly in the same place. The soul which is no way united to the Spirit is likened to the isolated man or woman, exposed to the gallant advances of persons destitute of wisdom.'

small pieces, but each opens a possible door to a way of interpreting symbols .... even the fact that this is a portable temple is important in my view because if it related to an internal passase then we each carry this portable structure with us wherever we go and (although some may not like to hear this) when we each realize that we ourselves are the 'high priests', we can learn to enter behind the veil and not die in the process .... but we must rise from the water (the lower parts of our body) pass through the fire (the fornix) and enter the holy of holies (the limbic system, the place of the pineal gland) with the spiralling energy .... the spinal column is sometimes referred to as the staff and the spiralling energy is the serpent .... so look at the symbols when the staff is thrown to the ground the becomes a snake ....

as we move through exodus each parsha tells us things on several levels .... in my view, we are moving toward a deeper understanding of the real meaning of the tabernalce in the wilderness .... not only a model for the temple of solomon, but a blueprint for each of us .... aloha nui, poh

[Bandit]

i am thinking i should order the same two books Poh. they look like the best i have come across... that way we can be using the same material. i will get back with more of the Tabernacle & your post on monday.

stay sweet Pohaikawahine