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05-20-2007, 01:00 AM
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The Temple of St. John is Open to Every Man
Peace Friends,
"Religion": I'm sure you would have looked up the origin of the word- it means to rebind as does the word yoga. There was a time when humankind had no need for religion or yoga. This was when the spiritual world was fully experienced around them (there was no need for religion in the Garden of Eden). The purpose of religion is to, quite simply, reconnect us to the spiritual. If it's not doing that it's not fulfilling it's purpose.
There are many authors who have begun the task of revealing the Christian Mysteries. I wouldn't suggest that those who are still at the stage of pure religious devotion be pushed into the realm of a full conscious understanding. It may be a shock.
"The Temple of St. John is open to every man, of course, but whether or not it is to be the choosing of every man to enter is an entirely different matter."
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05-20-2007, 10:39 PM
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Re: The Temple of St. John is Open to Every Man
tell me more about it, then?
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05-21-2007, 12:05 AM
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Re: The Temple of St. John is Open to Every Man
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Originally Posted by Francis king
tell me more about it, then?
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Hello Sr. Francis,
It is not an original concept. Tomberg mentions it in his Meditations on the Tarot- though he tened to stick with the Petrene system.
The message of St. John's Gospel is that we worship God in Spirit. The Temple of St. John is not an earthly Temple.
"There are differences of ministries, but the same Lord." (I Corinthians 12:5)
"Church" means "community"- it is the Community of Christ. In other words it refers to the body of all true Christians who are born.
As to entrance into the spiritual Temple of St. John, this is made clear:
"Either a man knowingly commits himself to Christ or he does not; and for he that is with Him, he is also for all men.
"The adoption of the whole world of all men and women, is prerequisite to the first beginning of a higher development. In no way is this to be taken as a privilege-seeking undertaking, however it is fact that those who cannot adopt all men lovingly are excluded from the Temple of St. John until such time that they are so prepared."
The Pristine Order of the Holy Tears is another Order we wish to associate with. This is an Order which "drives the workers, the lovers, of the Christ".
Formalized rigidity was overturned by Christ.
"He did not found a Church, He did not ask that we bear any symbol, but that we recognize all men to be of Heaven and embrace them so."
Blessings,
Br. Bruce
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05-21-2007, 11:46 AM
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Re: The Temple of St. John is Open to Every Man
Welcome to the CR forums, Br. Bruce!
Are you teaching universalism? Or at least a progressive universalism?
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05-21-2007, 11:57 AM
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Re: The Temple of St. John is Open to Every Man
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Originally Posted by Bruce Michael
There was a time when humankind had no need for religion or yoga.
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A time the world didn't need yoga?! I couldn't possibly imagine that....
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05-21-2007, 12:07 PM
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Re: The Temple of St. John is Open to Every Man
This post was copy and pasted from Bruce Michaels own site which took me all of 10 secs to find googling.
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05-21-2007, 01:16 PM
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Re: The Temple of St. John is Open to Every Man
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Originally Posted by Tao_Equus
This post was copy and pasted from Bruce Michaels own site which took me all of 10 secs to find googling.
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I have a feeling him and AndrewX ought to get along quite nicely.
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05-21-2007, 01:22 PM
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Re: The Temple of St. John is Open to Every Man
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Originally Posted by Bruce Michael
There are many authors who have begun the task of revealing the Christian Mysteries. I wouldn't suggest that those who are still at the stage of pure religious devotion be pushed into the realm of a full conscious understanding. It may be a shock.
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Then again, I would suggest that those who assume the Christian Mysteries can be objects of conscious understanding are equally in for a surprise ... they might find that those at the stage of 'pure religious devotion' passed beyond the realm of conscious understanding some ways ago ...
Welcome aboard...
Thomas
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05-21-2007, 02:39 PM
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Re: The Temple of St. John is Open to Every Man
so, bruce is just looking for followers then? I'm dissapointed, bruce...
can't u play in ur own bk yard?
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05-21-2007, 10:38 PM
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Re: The Temple of St. John is Open to Every Man
Originally Posted by Tao_Equus
This post was copy and pasted from Bruce Michaels own site which took me all of 10 secs to find googling.
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Originally Posted by Dondi
I have a feeling him and AndrewX ought to get along quite nicely.
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Oh? Beg pardon?
I don't even have a website, Dondi ...
While I do sometimes post quotes to support my own points, I think you'll find that my own views don't quite match those of anyone else here.
Would you care to think again about what you are insinuating, or perhaps just let me in on it?
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05-22-2007, 12:43 AM
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Re: The Temple of St. John is Open to Every Man
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Welcome to the CR forums, Br. Bruce!
Are you teaching universalism? Or at least a progressive universalism?
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Thank you for the welcome Br. Dondi,
As far as humanity as a whole is a whole- yes.
Blessings,
Bruce
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05-22-2007, 12:44 AM
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Re: The Temple of St. John is Open to Every Man
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A time the world didn't need yoga?! I couldn't possibly imagine that.... 
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Try harder...
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05-22-2007, 12:46 AM
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Re: The Temple of St. John is Open to Every Man
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Originally Posted by Tao_Equus
This post was copy and pasted from Bruce Michaels own site which took me all of 10 secs to find googling.
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Hello Tao,
I doubt you've found any of my sites.
You get a prize when you do!
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05-22-2007, 12:50 AM
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Re: The Temple of St. John is Open to Every Man
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Originally Posted by Thomas
Then again, I would suggest that those who assume the Christian Mysteries can be objects of conscious understanding are equally in for a surprise ... they might find that those at the stage of 'pure religious devotion' passed beyond the realm of conscious understanding some ways ago ...
Welcome aboard...
Thomas
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Thanks Br.Thomas,
Well I could bring you long replies to this...maybe later...
As Tomberg has said, Cognitive Christianity will outlast Traditional and Warmth Christianity.
God Bless,
Br. Bruce
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05-22-2007, 02:53 AM
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Re: The Temple of St. John is Open to Every Man
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Hello Tao,
I doubt you've found any of my sites.
You get a prize when you do! 
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Ohh I did, but I did not post the link as i see that your place to do, should you wish.If I remember correctly your photo had you stood in front of some picture. You are about 40, slim, shortish blonde hair. Think you were wearing a black leather jacket. And thanks for the offer but my mummy says i should not accept gifts from strangers :P
TE
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