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Old 12-25-2008, 03:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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There is no Hindu heaven, Christian heaven, Islamic heaven etc.

There is no Hindu heaven, Christian heaven, Islamic heaven etc.

God gives value for the spiritual knowledge contained in the religion. Religion is the external cup and spiritual knowledge is the internal material supplied to the customer in the hotel. The customer pays for the internal material and not for the external cup. The sweet Payasam in the cheap ceramic cup will have high payment. The cheap drinking water given in costly golden cup has no payment at all. The customer takes the material only and not the container. Similarly, the spiritual knowledge alone follows the soul from birth to birth and not the religion. When the external body is left over here, the soul raises up in a new energetic body. The soul in the new energetic body is associated with the spiritual knowledge alone but not with the religion. A Christian after leaving the external body does not remember that he is Christian. Similar is a Hindu, Similar is a Muslim, Similar is the human being of any religion.


When the soul goes up, it stands before God and is enquired irrespective of its religion. Only its service to the world under the guidance of God is counted. Just like you come out of the hotel with the Payasam in your stomach, leaving cup in the hotel, you will go up along with spiritual knowledge leaving the religion in this world. Only the good and bad works done by you will have the corresponding fruits, whatever may be your religion. There is no Hindu heaven, Christian heaven, Islamic heaven etc. There is only one heaven to enjoy the fruits of your good deeds. Similarly, there is no Hindu hell, Christian hell, Islamic hell etc. There is only one hell to enjoy the fruits of your bad deeds.

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Old 12-25-2008, 04:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: There is no Hindu heaven, Christian heaven, Islamic heaven etc.

There is no heaven and no hell at all Anal Antony.
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Old 12-25-2008, 11:27 PM   #3 (permalink)
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There is no heaven and no hell at all Anal Antony.
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Isn't deliberately creating discourse a type of hell?
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Re: There is no Hindu heaven, Christian heaven, Islamic heaven etc.

Methinks you mean discord, not discourse, old bean.....
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lmfao..... "convenient" typos! FTW!"£!$
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Re: There is no Hindu heaven, Christian heaven, Islamic heaven etc.

I believe there is Heaven and Hell. I do not believe them to be places. When I live with Understanding and Loving Compassion, that is Heaven. When my life is filled with Hypocrisy, Arrogance, Conceit, Anger, Greed, Lust, Cruelty, and Ignorance, then I live in Hell.

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Re: There is no Hindu heaven, Christian heaven, Islamic heaven etc.

I thought that there was no Hindu heaven because they believe in reincarnation not heaven and hell.
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Re: There is no Hindu heaven, Christian heaven, Islamic heaven etc.

TealLeaf,

Heaven is a time of rest between reincarnations. Nirvana is a place to go, after reincarnating has ended. Both ideas fit quite nicely into my belief system. I do not see any conflict between the two ideas at all.
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I thought that there was no Hindu heaven because they believe in reincarnation not heaven and hell.
Bhagwad Gita speaks of high realms (heaven), lower realms (hell), and the cycle of rebirth. So, I believe that living beings can live in any of these three types of realms in different incarnations or lives.
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Re: There is no Hindu heaven, Christian heaven, Islamic heaven etc.

The energy which animates the body is anchored in the container/body, but we are not our bodies.
They are a convenient means to inhabit this world, according to the terms of the game we are presently all engaged in.
Do you remember this?
Or have you become so completely absorbed that you have forgotten?
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Re: There is no Hindu heaven, Christian heaven, Islamic heaven etc.

But . . . there is a hell for Hindus, Christians, and Islamics.

This is the nature of a material world constructed upon the laws of "Duality".

There are relative stages of all types of things --all predicated upon existing within a dynamic constructed of polar duality.

There are heaven(s) & there are Hell(s) ---but how does one earn the right to freely choose which one to inhabit?
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But . . . there is a hell for Hindus, Christians, and Islamics.

This is the nature of a material world constructed upon the laws of "Duality".

There are relative stages of all types of things --all predicated upon existing within a dynamic constructed of polar duality.

There are heaven(s) & there are Hell(s) ---but how does one earn the right to freely choose which one to inhabit?
Since those examples you mention are all imaginary one could devise what rights they want, or are told they have to abide by.
Just because someone believes in "hell" does not give it validity.
Joseph Smith believed he would sit with Jesus and Yahweh and judge all the people after they died......he obviously had a vivid imagination.......and delusions of grandeur.

Duality is another arbitrary construct.......Reality is a singularity....All is One.
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