Trinity - Page 20

Thomas · 03-09-2008, 10:05 PM

That is a wholly unexpected and very generous and gracious comment, James, and I thank you for it, from the heart, more than you might know. In hope there is food for, and fruit of, thought on both sides, let us by your grace then withdraw in peace from this discussion.

Pray we part closer than when we met, and let our prayer of unity in Christ Jesus, in respect of your cousin, recall the Orthodox greeting of the Easter season: He is risen! He is risen indeed!

May His Word rise in us all.

Your friend and brother in Christ,

Thomas

Gatekeeper · 03-09-2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Thomas

That is a wholly unexpected and very generous and gracious comment, James, and I thank you for it, from the heart, more than you might know. In hope there is food for, and fruit of, thought on both sides, let us by your grace then withdraw in peace from this discussion.

Pray we part closer than when we met, and let our prayer of unity in Christ Jesus, in respect of your cousin, recall the Orthodox greeting of the Easter season: He is risen! He is risen indeed!

May His Word rise in us all.

Your friend and brother in Christ,

Thomas

Thank you, Thomas ...

Love & blessings

James a.k.a - Your friend, and brother in Christ

mee · 06-23-2008, 10:40 AM

For a consideration of the rules of Greek grammar that apply to John 1:1, see pages 26-9 of the brochure Should You Believe in the Trinity? published by Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Should You Believe in the Trinity?
Answers such questions as: What is the Trinity? Does the Bible teach it? Is Jesus Christ the Almighty God and part of the Trinity? What is the holy spirit, and how does it function? Illustrated.

i think its on the part about trinity prove texts
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Quahom1 · 06-23-2008, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by mee

For a consideration of the rules of Greek grammar that apply to John 1:1, see pages 26-9 of the brochure Should You Believe in the Trinity? published by Jehovah’s Witnesses.

Should You Believe in the Trinity?
Answers such questions as: What is the Trinity? Does the Bible teach it? Is Jesus Christ the Almighty God and part of the Trinity? What is the holy spirit, and how does it function? Illustrated.

i think its on the part about trinity prove texts
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everything you say everything you preach is bull. How does that feel mee? Because I truly believe what I am saying.

hurts don't it. That is how others feel when you dish out the bull. You win no one over to your side when you do this. You are a "Christian"? Not from where I am standing. And if you are the true "christian", I want no part of Christianity...

Think about that.

Too bad you couldn't see me coming out from under the fig tree...

17th Angel · 06-23-2008, 11:31 AM

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everything you say everything you preach is bull. How does that feel mee? Because I truly believe what I am saying.

And he, and you, and jack, and jim, and bill, and tom, and mike, and dick, and mary, and jane... They truly believe what they are saying... He simply says he doesn't agree/believe others faiths... But he certainly doesn't say what they believe is bull.... I have NEVER seen Mee, go down to name calling.

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hurts don't it. That is how others feel when you dish out the bull.

(yes it hurts when you get -personal- and name calling.)

It hurts others when he shares his values and faith? Wow... If it hurts I guess we should all just believe the same thing... We best stop having our own opinions.

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You are a "Christian"? Not from where I am standing.

That's your opinion.

(JW are only one of the many groups of christians that believe not in the trinity.)

No idea why I replied to your post... It just seems like your attempting to dictate to him to cease his expression(although yeah his expression isn't that creative... but, we're working on that.) and thought, the most common issue people have with Mee is that he copies and pastes... But, it feels like your main issue with him is he differs from your chain of faith, specially when he speaks of the trinity... So yeah... I just felt like posting.

BlaznFattyz · 06-23-2008, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex P

JW are only one of the many groups of christians that believe not in the trinity.

Christianity does not consider jw's a christian denomination, but rather a cult. They are not a group of christians. If they do not believe in the trinity they are something else.

17th Angel · 06-23-2008, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BlaznFattyz

Christianity does not consider jw's a christian denomination, but rather a cult. They are not a group of christians. If they do not believe in the trinity they are something else.

Don't give me that cult crap... lol getting really tired of hearing that word used as some kind of exclusive "crazy bad guy group" You are a christian sir? Then you are in a cult... Look up the word, understand and learn what it means...

And if you believe in the trinity? Are you a pagan? (are you apart of that "cult" lol.)

I also, don't believe you have the right to say who is and who isn't a christian... who do you think you are? Christ? lol.

BlaznFattyz · 06-23-2008, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex P

Don't give me that cult crap... lol getting really tired of hearing that word used as some kind of exclusive "crazy bad guy group" You are a christian sir? Then you are in a cult... Look up the word, understand and learn what it means...

And if you believe in the trinity? Are you a pagan (are you apart of that "cult" lol.)

I also, don't believe you have the right to say who is and who isn't a christian... who do you think you are? Christ? lol.

I am just vocalizing the mainstream beliefs of christianity. No need to take it personally out on me.

17th Angel · 06-23-2008, 04:46 PM

Sorry, if it seems personal...

Just cult means religion, religion means cult... I find it crazy how this has become a term to discriminate agaisnt faiths that differ to those of the person using the word.

And if we look at christianity surley it is safe to say that god/jesus will have the final say on who is and who isn't.....

Again, I am sorry if that seemed personal.

mee · 06-23-2008, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BlaznFattyz

Christianity does not consider jw's a christian denomination, but rather a cult. They are not a group of christians. If they do not believe in the trinity they are something else.

its a good job that Jesus regards JEHOVAHS WITNESSES as faithful to him MATTHEW 24;45-47

that is why he has given them Great responsibility, faithfulness leads to great blessings in more ways than one

BlaznFattyz · 06-23-2008, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex P

Sorry, if it seems personal...

Just cult means religion, religion means cult... I find it crazy how this has become a term to discriminate agaisnt faiths that differ to those of the person using the word.

And if we look at christianity surley it is safe to say that god/jesus will have the final say on who is and who isn't.....

Again, I am sorry if that seemed personal.

Yes, God judges the heart and knows those truly love him--he does have final say. And I believe there are those in any religion or no religion that love God with all their heart, but have been dealt bad cards in life that get in the way of knowing the true nature of God, unless the spirit speaks to them and they ignore Him or deny Him. Generally speaking, Chrisitianity believes that God is the Father, Son, and Holy spirit. Those that teach a different gospel than this but use some terminology and concepts but differ on the fundamentals of the Son of God also being the Word of God who is God who came to us as God in the flesh as Jesus Christ who is salvation and eternal life, these people are considered a cult, whether you like it or not, or we agree that it is not right to label them that, it will not change the mainstream beliefs that jw's are a cult and not christianity in the eyes of Christianity. Based on Christianity, they are false prophets, a cult, and spreading a false gospel.

Quahom1 · 06-23-2008, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex P

And he, and you, and jack, and jim, and bill, and tom, and mike, and dick, and mary, and jane... They truly believe what they are saying... He simply says he doesn't agree/believe others faiths... But he certainly doesn't say what they believe is bull.... I have NEVER seen Mee, go down to name calling.

(yes it hurts when you get -personal- and name calling.)

It hurts others when he shares his values and faith? Wow... If it hurts I guess we should all just believe the same thing... We best stop having our own opinions.

That's your opinion.

(JW are only one of the many groups of christians that believe not in the trinity.)

No idea why I replied to your post... It just seems like your attempting to dictate to him to cease his expression(although yeah his expression isn't that creative... but, we're working on that.) and thought, the most common issue people have with Mee is that he copies and pastes... But, it feels like your main issue with him is he differs from your chain of faith, specially when he speaks of the trinity... So yeah... I just felt like posting.

Tell you what Alex. Mee lays off of the Trinity, and I'll not mess with his beliefs either. But after several years of Mee's stuff, well anything can get old.

By the way, how does the cape feel?

mee · 06-23-2008, 05:22 PM

[quote=Quahom1;151269]everything you say everything you preach is bull. How does that feel mee? Because I truly believe what I am saying.

hurts don't it. quote]

no worries it goes with the job of being one of JEHOVAHS WITNESSES to have those sort of things said to us , but mee does not take it personally .

remember we have it all the time on the door to door work,

mee can take it .

Also there are a large part of the GREAT CROWD who are spoken of in revelation 7;9-10 who once upon a time said just the same as you are saying and now they are giving out just the same things as mee is saying.

Quahom1 · 06-23-2008, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Quahom1

everything you say everything you preach is bull. How does that feel mee? Because I truly believe what I am saying.

hurts don't it. quote]

no worries it goes with the job of being one of JEHOVAHS WITNESSES to have those sort of things said to us , but mee does not take it personally .

remember we have it all the time on the door to door work,

mee can take it .

Also there are a large part of the GREAT CROWD who are spoken of in revelation 7;9-10 who once upon a time said just the same as you are saying and now they are giving out just the same things as mee is saying.

No mee can't. Otherwise mee would have chosen to say nothing, and simply act as if no comment was ever made. But mee has to have the last word on everything, because mee is right and everyone else is wrong. Mee doesn't listen to rules either, because mee is above the law. Mee cuts and pastes instead of expressing self. Mee proselitizes because mee has an agenda, not a desire to discuss things.

And mee insists on putting others down, and let others still do mee's debates for mee.

Alex P has more passion and thought than mee.

seattlegal · 06-23-2008, 06:17 PM

I voted, "Yes, but not like you think," because no one else can do my thinking for me.

{I have to admit, though, it does make a nice koan.}