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08-26-2007, 08:49 AM
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True Sacrifice
Does True Sacrifice involve a net loss? I suppose the meaning of "net loss" is interpreted individually, but in financial accounting, according to the Generally Accepted Accounting Standards, a "Net Loss" is a loss which occurs in the very end; that is, after all things are accounted for. To illustrate, a standard income statement looks like this:
Sales revenue
- Cost of goods sold
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Gross Gain/Loss
- Other transactions
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Net Gain/Loss
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08-26-2007, 03:47 PM
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Re: True Sacrifice
No.. true sacrifice means.. PAID IN FULL from now and until forever.
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08-26-2007, 06:16 PM
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What was the question?
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Re: True Sacrifice
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Originally Posted by Eclectic Mystic
Does True Sacrifice involve a net loss? I suppose the meaning of "net loss" is interpreted individually, but in financial accounting, according to the Generally Accepted Accounting Standards, a "Net Loss" is a loss which occurs in the very end; that is, after all things are accounted for. To illustrate, a standard income statement looks like this:
Sales revenue
- Cost of goods sold
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Gross Gain/Loss
- Other transactions
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Net Gain/Loss
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Depends on what is "loss" How can one lose what they never had, to begin with?
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08-26-2007, 07:18 PM
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Re: True Sacrifice
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No.. true sacrifice means.. PAID IN FULL from now and until forever.
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Jesus rose from the dead. I thought the crusifiction was a passing event and less important than this (relatively).
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08-26-2007, 07:24 PM
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What was the question?
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Re: True Sacrifice
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Jesus rose from the dead. I thought the crusifiction was a passing event and less important than this (relatively).
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depends on one's point of view concerning "death". To Christians, this means everything. To you, it might not mean much.
But should you accept Christ, your eyes will open and I suspect you will cry like the rest of us, at the sacrifice made for us.
just a thought.
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08-26-2007, 07:52 PM
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Re: True Sacrifice
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Depends on what is "loss" How can one lose what they never had, to begin with?
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I understand your question, but I don't understand its context with this topic.
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08-26-2007, 08:21 PM
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What was the question?
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Re: True Sacrifice
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I understand your question, but I don't understand its context with this topic.
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Please forgive me. I was never good at Algebra either. I always had the right answer, but never showed the steps getting there. Hence I got an F in math class...
But the answer was still right...
I'm not about to argue semantics. In Christian forums, one should consider the mind set, before assuming...
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08-26-2007, 11:29 PM
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Re: True Sacrifice
Hi Eclectic Mystic,
>Does True Sacrifice involve a net loss?
By "true" do you mean in the cause of Love?- because that is the key.
It is like this: we have two glasses- one filled with water. We pour water from one glass into the other; but surprise, surprise we have more instead of less in the glass we poured from. That is how it is with Love.
We don't sacrifice just for the hell of it, though. You wouldn't want to give your life's blood to a demon, for instance.
-Br.Bruce
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08-27-2007, 02:19 AM
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Re: True Sacrifice
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Does True Sacrifice involve a net loss?
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No. Jesus Christ gave me an eraser, took out the whole column.
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08-27-2007, 01:43 PM
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Re: True Sacrifice
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Depends on what is "loss" How can one lose what they never had, to begin with?
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This is indeed a very profound statement.
Love and Peace,
JM
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08-27-2007, 08:06 PM
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Re: True Sacrifice
True Sacrifice is an accepted loss. But only if it is rendered valuable to the one to whom it is sacrificed.
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08-28-2007, 04:56 PM
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Re: True Sacrifice
Mark 10:28-3128Peter said to him, "We have left everything to follow you!"
29"I tell you the truth," Jesus replied, "no one who has left home or brothers or sisters or mother or father or children or fields for me and the gospel 30will fail to receive a hundred times as much in this present age (homes, brothers, sisters, mothers, children and fields—and with them, persecutions) and in the age to come, eternal life. 31But many who are first will be last, and the last first." By sacrificing having your own family in order to follow the path of Jesus and spread the Gospel, you will be welcomed as family in hundreds of homes in this life.
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08-28-2007, 05:12 PM
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Re: True Sacrifice
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Originally Posted by Eclectic Mystic
Does True Sacrifice involve a net loss?
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As Quahom says . . . don't be fooled by the semantics. To me, nothing was lost. The "sacrifice" was made in the knowledge that the cause one stood for, ultimately would not be lost.
I suppose then that there might have been a loss locally (in a temporal sense) in a particular time-frame. But in the "global cosmos" this was an opportunity for some really special people. Sacrifice doesn't imply "net loss" but often "loss for a greater cause."
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09-01-2007, 04:07 PM
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Re: True Sacrifice
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Originally Posted by Eclectic Mystic
Does True Sacrifice involve a net loss? I suppose the meaning of "net loss" is interpreted individually, but in financial accounting, according to the Generally Accepted Accounting Standards, a "Net Loss" is a loss which occurs in the very end; that is, after all things are accounted for. To illustrate, a standard income statement looks like this:
Sales revenue
- Cost of goods sold
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Gross Gain/Loss
- Other transactions
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Net Gain/Loss
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The other souls deserve love in a limited way only controlled by the rules of justice. But the Lord deserves unconditional love and kindness for His devotee. If you realize the truth by taking away the layer of ignorance acting as a stage of this divine drama, you will be surprised to know that anything sacrificed for the sake of God was given to you by God only. He gave something to you and forgot that the some thing belongs to Him. He covered you also with His delusion (Maya) so that you will think that this something belongs to you only. Now the drama of sacrifice is enacted over the stage of this layer of ignorance by which both God and devotee forget the basic truth.
Now when the soul sacrifices the something to God, both God and soul enjoy the sweet love of sacrifice based on the concept of donor and acceptor. Realized scholars pierce through the stage of ignorance and find out the truth that the something belongs to the Lord only and the whole drama is just for enjoyment of the sweet love of devotion between God and devotee. If you compare God with the other souls who love you just for sacrifice of something which belongs to you only( in the relative sense ) and that their love on you is only for their selfish happiness only, you can realize the difference between God and your beloved souls and deservingness of God to your boundless love.
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09-01-2007, 04:48 PM
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Re: True Sacrifice
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No. Jesus Christ gave me an eraser, took out the whole column.
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AMEN!!!
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