Understanding the Trinity

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by mee

The Trinity doctrine, is borrowed from pagan sources and was developed in its present form centuries after Bible writing was completed .so many people are misled to believe that it is bible based when it is not .

And I heard another voice out of heaven say: "Get out of her,(Babylon the great) my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues(revelation 18;4) oh dear christendom claims to represent the God of the bible but really is full of babylonish teachings . no wonder Jehovah and Jesus are going to destroy the world empire of false religion .(revelation 18;21) all the religions of the world have babylonish teachings attached to them, but never mind , Jehovah has it all in control ,soon false religion will be gone,and only pure teaching will remain.(rev 19;1-3)and we still have time to get out of her.but not for long.

Before [the] statute gives birth to [anything], [before the] day has passed by just like chaff, before there comes upon YOU people the burning anger of Jehovah, before there comes upon YOU the day of Jehovah’s anger, seek Jehovah, all YOU meek ones of the earth, who have practiced His own judicial decision. Seek righteousness, seek meekness. Probably YOU may be concealed in the day of Jehovah’s anger(zephaniah2;2-3)

This thread is set up for those who wish to understand the Trinity, not for those who don't accept it. If you do not believe in the trinity...fine. Don't post here.

Q

[truthseeker]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

This thread is set up for those who wish to understand the Trinity, not for those who don't accept it.

And so the title says... perhaps somebody missed it...

Originally Posted by Quahom1

If you do not believe in the trinity...fine. Don't post here.

SSSSSSTRIIIKE!!

[truthseeker]

Originally Posted by mee

The Trinity doctrine, is borrowed from pagan sources and was developed in its present form centuries after Bible writing was completed .so many people are misled to believe that it is bible based when it is not .

All religions today are of pagan origin in some form. Understanding God is a progressive activity - although not with some...

[lunamoth]

Originally Posted by truthseeker

All religions today are of pagan origin in some form. Understanding God is a progressive activity - although not with some...

Truthseeker, we are quite on the same page today.

peace,
lunamoth

[Faithfulservant]

Originally Posted by mee

The Trinity doctrine, is borrowed from pagan sources and was developed in its present form centuries after Bible writing was completed .so many people are misled to believe that it is bible based when it is not .

And I heard another voice out of heaven say: "Get out of her,(Babylon the great) my people, if YOU do not want to share with her in her sins, and if YOU do not want to receive part of her plagues(revelation 18;4) oh dear christendom claims to represent the God of the bible but really is full of babylonish teachings . no wonder Jehovah and Jesus are going to destroy the world empire of false religion .(revelation 18;21) all the religions of the world have babylonish teachings attached to them, but never mind , Jehovah has it all in control ,soon false religion will be gone,and only pure teaching will remain.(rev 19;1-3)and we still have time to get out of her.but not for long.

Before [the] statute gives birth to [anything], [before the] day has passed by just like chaff, before there comes upon YOU people the burning anger of Jehovah, before there comes upon YOU the day of Jehovah’s anger, seek Jehovah, all YOU meek ones of the earth, who have practiced His own judicial decision. Seek righteousness, seek meekness. Probably YOU may be concealed in the day of Jehovah’s anger(zephaniah2;2-3)

Interesting since I have posted scripture where it shows the trinity as being in the bible..

(Larousse Encyclopedia of Mythology ) source of the post above.

The very same page that JW's use to say that the Christian Trinity was borrowed from the Babylonians also decribes this triad almost exactly like JW's view Jehovah! "

1. He [Anu] was god in the highest sense, the supreme god. All the other deities honoured him as their 'father', that is to say, their chief." Just as the lesser Babylonian gods called Anu as their "Father", so too JW's and Trinitarians, even all Christians believe that Jehovah is called "Father" by Jesus. But it gets worse for JW's! Just as the Babylonians view Anu the supreme God over lesser gods. JW's view Jehovah as the supreme God who over all other lesser Gods (elohim include angels, Jesus, Devil, men etc)

JW's have not comprehended that if they had the Governing Body themselves sit down and explain their view of God (Father-true God, Son-a created demi-god and Holy Spirit-the force or energy of God) to the ancient Babylonians they would immediately label JW's as a religion who believe in a triad concept of God very similar to themselves. (Trinitarians) Stated differently, from the perspective of ancient Babylonian there is NO REAL DIFFERENCE between the Trinitarian view of God and the Arian (JW's) view of God. Ancient Babylonians would label both views as POLYTHEISM! The Governing Body really blundered when they chose this route!

But the same source identifies all kinds of similarities between Christianity and pagan beliefs, like the Lord's supper. Similarities don't mean that Christians borrowed from the pagans.

JW's project the false impression that ancient Babylonians would not label the Watchtower version of God as a Triad. (Father-true God, Son-a created demi-god and Holy Spirit-the force or energy of God)
JW's deliberately misrepresent the fact that the Watchtower view of God is CLOSER to Babylonian polytheism than Trinitarians! Just as the Babylonians view Anu the supreme God over lesser gods. JW's view Jehovah as the supreme God who over all other lesser Gods (Elohim include angels, Jesus, Devil, men etc) Trinitarians totally reject the Watchtower teaching that Jesus is a demi-god.

Further they create a false dilemma by thinking that if there are similarities between Christianity and paganism, that the Christian belief must not be the result of divine revelation, but borrowed from the pagans.

JW's failed to quote that there were all kinds of grouping combinations down through history, even today! The pagans had twinities, trinities quadities etc right up to 30 millionities! It is scholastic dishonesty to arbitrarily select a trinity out of an endless combination of pagan Gods.

**Perhaps the biggest deception of all is that JW's mislead the public into thinking that the Babylonians were Trinitarians of any sort! In fact they worshipped many God's that were grouped in many logical manners like sky, earth and water.**

[adriyel]

Originally Posted by truthseeker

This forum is the best thing since NIV.

Try not to rely on NIV or this Forum too much
NIV shares some mistranslations/confuddled text with KJV, although it is greatly better. When I deeply study a piece of text, I usually compare it across 3-7 Bibles. KJV, NIV, ESV, Pe****ta, Hebrew, Greek, NKJV....you get the idea. I have too much free time

-- Adriyel

[truthseeker]

Understanding soul in relation to spirit and flesh, what is the binding force of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit?

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by truthseeker

And so the title says... perhaps somebody missed it...

SSSSSSTRIIIKE!!

Actually a "Home Run", unless that is that the gospels and Epistles have no merit...John, 1 John, Matthew, and the Letters to the churches...

v/r

Q