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Old 04-08-2007, 02:05 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Again, Derek/Tariki, I thank you for sharing the Pure Land teachings as they have deepened my understanding of matters such as grace and surrender. I am inclined to believe that any Divine name which engenders one to fully surrender the limitations of self has salvific power, as it is in the opening up of one's being that we reach deeper into our Source. I'd shared a piece by former zen monk turned Pure Lander, Clark Strand, re the power of surrender on another thread. I'll share another short piece of his which illuminates this proposition I made as well:

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Again, Derek/Tariki, I thank you for sharing the Pure Land teachings as they have deepened my understanding of matters such as grace and surrender. I am inclined to believe that any Divine name which engenders one to fully surrender the limitations of self has salvific power, as it is in the opening up of one's being that we reach deeper into our Source. I'd shared a piece by former zen monk turned Pure Lander, Clark Strand, re the power of surrender on another thread. I'll share another short piece of his which illuminates this proposition I made as well:

YogaJournal.Com: The Way of the Name

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Earl,

Thanks for the link. Seemed to speak for myself in many ways. Though I have heard that the ultimate task is to jump from the top of a hundred foot pole without a safety net, personally I need to know a couple of arms are there....... And given the unique circumstances of each, some arms just seem easier to trust than others. My own weak mind - easily led by minds stronger in "conviction" and apparently immune to any form of doubt concerning any belief of their own - carries far too much negative baggage as far as the Christian "arms" are concerned.

And though I do go a little overboard concerning the aspect of "gift", the reality is that our path will always involve both gift and task..........though perhaps the only task is to open and see/acknowledge the sometimes terrible depths within us, the capacity for "evil" and judgement of others. It does seem to be that Mercy only allows us to see such depths in the light of infinite compassion - to have it revealed in any other way would perhaps destroy rather than "save". With such seeing, the "task" as path seems to sort itself out, the road to joy which is mysteriously revealed to us without our exactly realizing - or as we Pure Landers have it, the way of "non-calculation", where "no-working is true working". We begin to see other human beings, each with their own faults, in the same light that has embraced ourselves..........and as I never cease from quoting..............mutual foregiveness of each vice opens the gates of paradise

Well, hope all is well.
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