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09-13-2005, 05:47 AM
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Embracing the Mystery
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Re: Vampires
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Originally Posted by _Z_
Hey path of one,
I don’t see auras I am more of a mind seer & reader of the book with no name & the ether, the amber comes from visions. Interesting about the haze, do you see it around plants too? I associate green [although obvious] with vegetation, hence the ‘green man’ perhaps. I suppose if there are souls that originate from the higher plains [stellar children] then there will also be ones from the lower, usually I just feel sad for such beings & if I can help raise them then I do. But I am not talking about vampires as I have not met one [I think] just people that have a certain dark disposition, others however I find quite annoying and dumb.
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Based on what others tell me about seeing auras as having various colors and whatnot, maybe I'm not seeing auras at all. What I see, when I bother to let myself do it, is a sort of haze that I think of as life energy/chi/whatnot. I generally do think of plants as green and animals/humans as gold, not sure why. Ocassionally I do get impressions of other colors, but I don't see them as much I just think of them, but I never bothered to investigate that much. I've been told I have a tendency to "shine" with a white haze by other people who read auras, but I don't see it myself and I don't know what that means.
It's interesting- the mind seeing thing. I'm empathic and I do sometimes get some thoughts through telepathy as well, but generally only if people are really broadcasting them. I have found I can mind-talk to others and do limited amounts of mind-reading without the broadcasting, but I think it is an invasion of others' privacy, so I try to keep my mind to myself. I can't help the empathy though; it's pretty much automatic unless I'm really exhausted or voluntarily shut it off. I do have a tendency to "sense" people's inner thoughts/feelings/self as well. I've met limited numbers of vampires in person, but none have seemed really "dark" to me in the same sense as the couple of folks I've run into that make me feel/sense... something much more disturbing. Not sure how to put it, just the occasional person feels deeply wrong, and this is a very different feeling than the more common ones I've had from people who are grieving or mentally disturbed. Is this more like what you mean by "dark"?
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Do vampire’s not have to interact with people to gain access to there energies e.g. love making?
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No. Psychic vampires generally can feed off of ambient energy or just through energy work. Some say they form an empathic connection first and then sort of visualize siphoning off energy, but no touch is generally necessary. However, some do prefer energy from sex and say it makes energy feeding easier, as well as producing pleasant emotions that go along with it and intensifying the satisfaction from feeding.
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09-13-2005, 07:34 AM
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Re: Vampires
the very first vampire i can see so far is Lillith. interesting i did not know that the mythical Lillith that was to be with Adam in the bible was also called a demon vampire.
i dont believe that.
then i found this. the legend of Dracula.
The legend of Count Dracula was based on a real person. The PrinceVlad III Dracula, a.k.a Vlad Tepes, meaning "Vlad the Impaler. princeof Walachia (c1431-1476). He was born in Transylvania, which at thattime was ruled by Hungary.He was called Dracula (son of the devil), as his father was known asVlad Dracul (Vlad the Devil) because of their cruelty. http://www.crimelibrary.com/classics3/vlad/
i dont know what you all are talking about by seeing colors on people, but i will say this, whenever i have seen anything like that, it has always been black or white or maybe i should say, gray going from a dark gray to a very light gray. the lighter the gray the more pleasant & warm,....
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09-13-2005, 07:45 AM
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Re: Vampires
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Originally Posted by path_of_one
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No. Psychic vampires generally can feed off of ambient energy or just through energy work. Some say they form an empathic connection first and then sort of visualize siphoning off energy, but no touch is generally necessary. However, some do prefer energy from sex and say it makes energy feeding easier, as well as producing pleasant emotions that go along with it and intensifying the satisfaction from feeding.
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i wonder if a vampire can do that also by talking and using a specific voice.
my dad is like that. he talks people to sleep or until they tell him to shut up because he does not know when to stop.
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09-13-2005, 11:16 AM
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Re: Vampires
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Do vampire’s not have to interact with people to gain access to there energies e.g. love making?
I have often wondered if disease was somehow related, as it seams we catch a virus almost instantly then when we have ‘passed it on’ it quickly goes away.
Z
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... The 'Immortal' and 'supernatural power' Vampires you all speak of cannot have 'love making'..... Also they do not catch any type of disease.... they have better immune systems than sharks, further more... they are immortal... so if they caught HIV, so? It wouldn't effect nor kill them. The closest they get to contact is tearing someone's throat apart...... that is all.
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09-13-2005, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 17th Angel
... The 'Immortal' and 'supernatural power' Vampires you all speak of cannot have 'love making'..... Also they do not catch any type of disease.... they have better immune systems than sharks, further more... they are immortal... so if they caught HIV, so? It wouldn't effect nor kill them. The closest they get to contact is tearing someone's throat apart...... that is all.
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that would be a hollywood vampire. in real life that would be murder, some kind of devil or they would literally have HIV. dont you think?
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09-13-2005, 02:17 PM
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Ok I was going to compare the life of a lion or something but I think the 'Vampire bat' will be more suitable, for the record firstly, yes there is such a bat. The Vampire bat feeds on goats and such.... Would you say that is a murder? I honestly think, if the Immortal Vampire is such a creature *evil smirk*  Then it could possibly carry the HIV virus, but it wouldn't effect it... errr example the rats in the black death carried the fleas which carried the plague virus yet were not effected... Comments?
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09-13-2005, 02:25 PM
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the hollywood bat or the real vampire bat?
it would not be good for a real vampire to get bit by a real vampire bat that is infected. or so it seems.
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09-13-2005, 02:28 PM
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I don't think it would effect it, If we say just for the Hell of it "there are Immortal Vampires with special powers and auras." Then I will stand by them not being infected by anything.... They can only be killed in certain ways and transmitted viruses are not one of the ways. Although, I am not saying they do exisit 100%... ¬.¬ Just if they did.... ¬.¬
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09-13-2005, 03:22 PM
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Re: Vampires
a stake in the heart. the sun. if they get no blood they eventually wither away to dust. i think there are a couple of more ways.
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09-13-2005, 03:25 PM
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Re: Vampires
Stake in the heart? What wouldn't that kill heh. I agree on that one...
Removal of the head.
Water.
Silver.
Sun.
And obviously the most effective purifier of all.... Fire!
That is my list....
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09-13-2005, 08:03 PM
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Re: Vampires
Hi Kim.
You are probably not seeing auras, more a visualization of energies. Druids are of three main types – ‘bards’, like actors & musicians, ‘Ovates’, psychics and mediums then druids proper, like artists and writers [storytellers] – good luck with your writing by the way [I am interested in what your subject matter is so pm me ok]. Ovates see auras etc, yet this is a lesser art because they are adding colour to specify aspects! Druids see in clearer ways, this can be confusing as it is not as obvious to us, but given time we all tune in to our own thing once we know what that is. So imho I would continue to ignore yet still understand what you are being shown, ha yes you will shine white – hence the white robe of the druids! [One with the light of ceugant – the most divine centre]. Yes the mind seeing is our main thing, the way I think of telepathy is that we tune into the great spirit which is like a common unifier between things, our minds broadcast into the ether all the time, so I wouldn’t say we are ‘getting into peoples heads’ so to say more reading info within the ethylic ocean. Obviously it is possible to project/influence another’s mind which is why it is better to only project general love – read rather than write so to say!
Yes I think we understand each other on dark people, all humans have an amount of light in them though, so it is possible to help them – better to do it in a remote manner imo though! It must be hard for people that have a constant stream of evil entering their minds, but by projecting love whilst visualising there visage one can help balance and slow the stream, but I would strongly advise not entering their sphere of being i.e. getting to know them.
Hmm, I cannot see how the psychic vampires can feed without someone releasing energies somehow, perhaps week minded people loose small amounts in their everyday pursuits [hence ageing quicker], I would think that stress causes energy loss, the greater the more.
Bandit, hi. Yes ole vlad was quite the hero in Transylvania. I thought Dracula came from the word ‘draco’ which means dragon? Interesting – your greyscale vision! Something to do with stark Christian duality being blended by your more open views perhaps.
17th angel, hi. Spirits can manifest as human forms and make love – so can many ethereal beings – more in a dream context though, maybe vampires cannot I don’t know! It just seams like a useful way to extract energies & fits with some of the myths. As for diseases, I meant that they appear to manoeuvre between people as if they are dark spirits hence the tarot card of the devil often means illness. I was drawing a parallel between them and vampires – maybe they are similar entities [if at all of course].
ps. stillness of the mind stops all! inc. vampires & even satan himself! dont know about killing them or if possible.
Love n light to all.
Z
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09-14-2005, 03:04 AM
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Re: Vampires
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Bandit, hi. Yes ole vlad was quite the hero in Transylvania. I thought Dracula came from the word ‘draco’ which means dragon? Interesting – your greyscale vision! Something to do with stark Christian duality being blended by your more open views perhaps.
ps. stillness of the mind stops all! inc. vampires & even satan himself! dont know about killing them or if possible.
Love n light to all.
Z
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that is about the best complement in a long time for me Z! it might be a greyscale, but its not just a vision, they are real things. (hard to explain)
but hey, if i can graduate to duality & still have all my beliefs about Jesus & the BIble then i guess i am doing ok & thanks again for that kind word.
for Dracula, i think we should use the stake method, because i dont trust the silver bullet, you hold the stake & i will hold the hammer. sound good? or we can try to silence him to death.
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09-14-2005, 03:45 AM
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Re: Vampires
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or we can try to silence him to death. 
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Or given the nature of us folks on this board, talk him to death about spirituality and whatnot!
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09-14-2005, 08:12 AM
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Re: Vampires
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Or given the nature of us folks on this board, talk him to death about spirituality and whatnot! 
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yah.
i am thinking it is possible to give energy to someone from talking & at the same time take away there energy. i mean, when a debate becomes exhausting that seems to be the time to quit because no one is getting anywhere.
so two people could give each other energy & 2 people could take away each others energy. or just have one taking all the energy & the other giving.
it is weird & i have never thought of that until you said that.
i just hope i dont turn out like my dad & jabber jaw people to death. he tells them straight out, "I need a few minutes of your time, If you want me to shut up, then just tell me."
then he goes on & on & puts them to sleep or they tell him to be quiet. He has read a lot of our postings on this board when he visits & he likes it.
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09-14-2005, 06:50 PM
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Re: Vampires
Bandit hi.
Oh do explain more of you can [about light and dark]! I actually think you have graduated away from duality, or else your vision would be like a chequers board . no what I mean is that an infantile view of Christianity has a stark division between heaven and hell, one is black the other white. But I believe that hell does not exist, it is more ignorance and a lack of god’s spirit within. Imho Jesus would happily allow anyone into heaven after a period of transformation in purgatory [or via the underworld – not sure there – if they are similar or the same according to one’s beliefs]. Indeed even Satan/Lucifer could go to heaven in this way, but he chooses not to. But I don’t know all that much about the bible n all that so correct me if I am wrong. If I was Jesus then that’s how I would see it!
Dracula; well yes we could beet him at his own game by draining him of energy, sending him back to the black light & rendering him useless and void of all existence.
Or put him in a lead box and send him into space to suffer billions of years without a feed. Then again one could just join him – all those virgins sound like great fun! In fact the whole lifestyle could be fun – shame its not like in the movies.
Only joking btw, I am well aware of the real nature of evil and I don’t like it at all, in real life there is nothing funny about it, dark people seam to think it is but they are torn apart spiritually – evil destroys itself!
Z
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