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wil · 10-12-2006, 07:12 PM

I suppose every preacher has their method of filling the offering basket. This isn't one that encourages me to support in any way shape or fashion.

shadowman · 10-12-2006, 07:39 PM

before comming to god through
christ, we hated god. we are not just sinners, we hate god.

preaching on the justness of god would split a church

god is as terrible as he is wonderful.

a god that i not mighty and terrible is not the god of the bible. if one says. no this is not my god, i love god, they are commiting idolatry by worshiping a god that doesnt exist.

god is not a tame lion

unrighteousness is not doing the will of god.

in order to be relevant one has to be totally different from most of the world. the world dos more harm than good. if you want to be relevant dont be politically correct , be biblically correct. ou might be burned at the stake but you will go out with the glory of god upon you

men hate god, before one is regenerated in their hearts, they hate god

the wrath of god is revealed through heaven against all ungodly and unrighteous men who supress the truth of god in unrighteousness

nonconformity to the will of god. most people are in the spirit of someone whowould go to hel when they died. most of us do not want to go to heaven. we dont worship him, seek him, study his ways, we really dont want to go to heaven.

god is a tyrant and despot, he as absolute sovereighnty over all, and humans have a big problem with that. they want to make a god that doesnt exist. athiests dont exist, they know god is real. they supress truth because they want to be teir own gods. we all wat to rule and make our own god, be our own god.

god is not a mystery. but we suppress the trut in our unrighteous suppressing of trut of the bible.

we are empty people.

jesus was never empty, he had fruit we could not eat.

we were created and saved for the glory of god, to give ourselves whole heartedly to god and to the service of others.

we were created for him. it is selfish becuase he is god.

the greatest gift god can give him is himself, and this is what he has done. he has taken center stage on this world and done everythng he does t show how spectacular he is. and we get to look at that.

being created in his glory is a wonderful thing

we have an infinite hole in our heart that can only be filled by a infinite being

i can tell how muc you have god, by how muc entertainment you need. because when you have god, you need no other things

Quahom1 · 10-12-2006, 07:53 PM

You know, God is a wonderful and brilliant designer. For instance, He designed man in such a way that:

1. Man hears in stereo but speaks in mono (in otherwords we should be doing more listening than talking).

2. Man's arms and legs are positioned in such a way that he can't pat himself too hard on the back, nor kick himself too hard in the ass.

There is something else that is paramount to good witnessing to men. That is the speaker must know whom to chastise and whom to uplift. The message of redemption afterall is not the same for every man.

For example, try telling a gang member or a battle weary solider, or a hardened cop, or a trauma medical type they are going to hell if they do not accept Christ, and they'll laugh at the irony...since they've already been there.

Or try telling a rich man or affluent, or politician that there are rewards waiting for them in heaven if they accept Christ, and they laugh at the irony...since they already have that.

Or try telling a man with nothing that he must sacrifice for Christ...and he'll laugh at the irony that he is already there.

But the most ingratiating thing a preacher can ever say, is that they know the nature of a man, and that he is doomed without Christ. That is like the pot calling the kettle, black. That is something the individual must decide on, not the preacher.

Hell fire and brimstone sermons are not the Good News. What they are is more bad news, to be ignored.

Indeed it seems to me that an invite from the preacher to come to know the wonder and Love of Christ, would be much more in order for most people today.

Honey works much better than vinegar, when trying to catch flies.

shadowman · 10-12-2006, 08:23 PM

i still think that if we were somehow a god hiher than god. (make it so holodeck)

and we came across yaweh, we would lock him up for driving the things he created insane.

Quahom1 · 10-12-2006, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by shadowman

i still think that if we were somehow a god hiher than god. (make it so holodeck)

and we came across yaweh, we would lock him up for driving the things he created insane.

Hot or Cold Shadowman. God can work with those that are hot or cold. He just hates luke warm (which you apparently are not). So I think you are gonna be just fine.

shadowman · 10-12-2006, 08:37 PM

what does that mean?

i tohught things were not black and white. the problem is people try and seperate things like religion science and psychology, when in one way another they are the same

either

all conencted by god

or
all connected as ideas of humans

or both

juantoo3 · 10-12-2006, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Terrence

Everyone scared? Who's listening?

Of getting a virus in my computer from a hacker site, you're darn tootin'!

Sorry, I don't go to these kind of links as a matter of principle. I haven't got the time to undo the mess too many of them cause. Maybe this one is OK, I don't know, but I've been burned enough in the past that I don't even bother anymore. I don't open about 95% of my email either for the same reason.

So, my point being, if you can't bring a summary of your own in your own words, what's the point? Am I scared of what some link might say...hardly. I've done my own homework thanks. I don't let others do my homework for me.

shadowman · 10-12-2006, 09:06 PM

its an interesting sermon, if you want you can read my weak paraphrasing

juantoo3 · 10-12-2006, 09:18 PM

Kindest Regards, shadowman!

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Originally Posted by shadowman

its an interesting sermon, if you want you can read my weak paraphrasing

I did read, and I guessed it was a bit of paraphrase of the sermon. If only Terrence had done the same to begin with, keeping in mind the copyright laws (giving credit where credit is due).

So, if I may presume the paraphrase posted is anywhere near to what this sermon preaches, I have some serious doctrinal issues with it. Beginning with it saying that infants are born sinful...we have already discussed that at length. Even though I may or may not be correct in particulars, it is pretty evident *by scripture* that infants are born innocent, therefore this "teacher" who teaches incorrectly needs to go back to school. Either that, or face the special judgement reserved specifically for those who teach G-d's children incorrectly.

I am guessing this has nothing to do with you, shadowman, so please do not take what I have said here to heart concerning yourself. Perhaps it is wrong of me, but I am using your post as an opportunity to critique the paraphrase.

Quahom1 · 10-12-2006, 11:58 PM

Actually, I think this thread is not furthering discussion on Christianity. It is only causing anger...So. closed.

shadowman · 10-13-2006, 12:17 AM

the sermon was supposed to be uncomfortable, the pastor said. i thoughtit was very thought provoking. anyway

Terrence · 10-13-2006, 01:57 AM

Do you love God yet bro, or are you content still with having things done your own way without any regard to bowing to your Creator's commandments?

Quahom1 · 10-13-2006, 03:44 AM

Ok, but it is strongly suggested that all parties remember to adhere to CR's code of conduct, as this thread is very close to the line. http://www.comparative-religion.com/...of-conduct.php

shadowman · 10-13-2006, 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Terrence

Do you love God yet bro, or are you content still with having things done your own way without any regard to bowing to your Creator's commandments?

im just not sure if this dichotomy exists yet. i try my best to bow to ten commandments, i think about this almost all the time in almost all my actions. my biggest problems are sex related

Terrence · 10-13-2006, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by shadowman

im just not sure if this dichotomy exists yet. i try my best to bow to ten commandments, i think about this almost all the time in almost all my actions. my biggest problems are sex related

When you're breaking any of those laws you know (dont tell me no) that your conscience convicts of your sin. God has taken the time to write his laws apon your heart and when you break them, he has given you a moral alerm, the conscience, which means "with knowledge" (Con = with, science = knowledge) to allow you to know that you are Far from innocent because you are breaking His laws "with knowledge" that it is wrong. Thats why when you lie, no one has to tell you that you are doing a bad thing, you already know. Your consience bares witness to that truth. So all that said, whether you admit the dichotomy that is taking place or not, you are still accountable before God. He is Holy and will not let guilty go free. However, God is just. He has offered you a way out, a way of escape through His Son in whom He crushed for sinners. Look at yourself in light of God's laws and look to the cross and weep. Then, if you feel any love for the bleeding savior who was crushed for sinners, repent and trust in Him. God will save you if you do that.