Was Jesus a peacemaker or a militant Zealot?

[WolfgangvonUSA]

Originally Posted by Sacredstar

Dear Wolfgang

GOD speaks to everyone but not everyone listens.
It is only lack of trust and judgement that stands in the way.

Love beyond measure

Sacredstar

No mortal can really know that God speaks to everyone.

It is vanity and pride and perhaps even blasphemy to claim direct knowledge of God's mind.

[Sacredstar]

Dear Wolfgang

If you accept that GOD speaks to people why would you not accept that he speaks to everyone? Why would GOD choose one over another when the love of GOD is for all in equality?

In my domain there are no chosen people all are the children of divine parentage.

One has to experience GOD to know GOD, to know GOD is to love GOD and when you do so you also know the pure intent and will-to-good that is at the base of all creation.

Beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder and the test of our integration of this is when we can see all through GOD's eyes of love, and when we do so we see GOD in everyone and all of creation.

From my experience GOD can only be felt in the heart not in the mind.

Love beyond measure

Sacredstar

[Marsh]

Originally Posted by Sacredstar

So the double edged sword of truth can heal or it can hurt...

To be responsible independent thinkers, which is another reason why he taught in parables. To take responsibility for their own understanding and appreciation....

Once people self realise and truly discover themselves they no longer need a teacher, if the teacher has done their job properly...

Cool. I agree (essentially) on the first and the second points, although I'm having a little trouble with the image of a sword that heals.

In the third place, however, I would like to disagree. This idea assumes that education is a finite process, and while on earth this may be more or less true I don't believe there is an end to God's knowledge. Where others may portray God as unchanging, I believe that he is in fact changing every moment (i.e. growing more and more powerful in knowledge, just as human beings do). Thus I don't think that there will ever be a time when we will achieve self-sufficience.

This is, in my mind, the fault that Lucifer stumbled at, and while I'm in no way equating you in particular with him, I am equating mankind with him insofar as we all share the common trait of pride.

I'm reminded of Jesus' statement to Nathaniel when Nathaniel was so impressed when Jesus shared his knowledge of what Nathaniel was doing when he was called; "Does this impress you? My boy, you ain't seen nothin' yet!" (not a direct quotation

[Sacredstar]

Dear Marsh

'although I'm having a little trouble with the image of a sword that heals'

Two examples; the scapel that a doctor uses to remove a diseased organ, words of truth can heal when we say I love you.

"I don't believe there is an end to God's knowledge."

I agree with you, I would add there is no end to your own either.

But when I speak in terms of the teacher I speak in terms of on an intermediate in general terms.

"we all share the common trait of pride"

Well pride is a cloak that separates us from GOD so why do people need the cloak of pride? This is the new era of the transparency of Christ Consciousness is it not?

"I'm reminded of Jesus' statement to Nathaniel when Nathaniel was so impressed when Jesus shared his knowledge of what Nathaniel was doing when he was called; "Does this impress you? My boy, you ain't seen nothin' yet!"

Jesus also told the apostles off for being intoxicated and drunk on his energy. I feel that Jesus would say what he felt was right at the time for each individual experience, and it is important to me to be mindful of this. I feel this is important because many people can take all types of scripture across all purposes, but yet sometimes a saying or situation was specific for that moment of the one individual experience. So for me it is about establishing what can apply to everyone in modern times and what was unique in the moment.

Being love

Sacredstar