Wedding at Canna, Jesus' first miracle... - Page 2

tommy · 06-15-2005, 01:12 AM

Thanks for your post here today. Think about this one Path, the guy falls of the Donkey from too much wine and the Donkey does fine. Hmmm... now nature is not involved, what happens next? I really appreciated your posts here today guys, especially yours Bandit. Or even better yet, Jesus gets suid for performing the miracle and making too much wind and we have a court trial like Santa Clause had on Miricle on 64th street now the Jackson trial is over.

IQuahom I will tone down the extreme Revelations discussion, its a challenge. Ecclesiates is my favorite Chapter in the Book and listening to it on CD now I get the old King Solomons voice stuck in my head. Love and Peace and kind warm blessings for a peaceful evening tonight with your families and with Christ... Tom

path_of_one · 06-15-2005, 02:19 AM

The guy should have tied himself to the donkey. LOL- it's been done before, and no doubt will be again!

Thank you for the blessings, Tom, peace to you and may the Spirit guide you in your journey through the Word and in finding God's path for you. You are seeking God, and so you will not fail.

juantoo3 · 06-15-2005, 05:04 AM

Kindest Regards, all!

I can't help but get a tickle out of this thread,

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Tommy, your search is commendable. Keep looking, you will find if you keep the "right" attitude and spirit.

A little sidebar that might or might not help, some teach that the "new wine" was grape juice, that is, non-alcoholic. I don't know that I agree, but it is something to consider. I do agree that alcohol in moderation is good for the body and soul. Unless one is a recovering alcoholic.

But I have to laugh at the driving drunk on a donkey thought!

mee · 06-15-2005, 08:52 AM

Jesus’ first miracle was to convert water into wine. The Bible account says: "When, now, the director of the feast tasted the . . . wine but did not know what its source was, . . . [he] called the bridegroom and said to him: ‘Every other man puts out the fine wine first, and when people are intoxicated, the inferior. You have reserved the fine wine until now.’" (John 2:9, 10) Yes, "the fine wine" Jesus produced was real wine.

Quahom1 · 06-15-2005, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tommy

Quahom1, OK, lets be honest, I am trying to read between your lines so here is your quote I was referring to. There is nothing worse than an ex cigarette smoker, a recovering alcoholic, or a former believer in one form of faith, implying to others that they are wrong. The log in one's eye is much larger than the speck in another's...

I knew I ran that risk in posting Revelations yesterday and when you mentioned you had pretty thick skin and also said you might have some questions as well and encouraged me to post it. I went ahead and put hours putting it together for purposes of debate. Lets be real honest, did you find my thread I posted yesterday on Revelation, are you Ready, disturbing? I find all of those topics disturbing in Revelations other then the eventual Kindom of Jesus at the end in Rev 20 and really want to be proved wrong because I too am not sure if the comments are all right as I have not converted so far to anything new officially as a Bible Student and thats why I am poking around on a comparative site. Wherever and whomever I have discussed those issues, the main theme seems to be, don't try and convince people their wrong rather then a discussion of the issues and the questions brought up. So I peacefully welcome going back to that post on Revelations and having a true debate and discussion on the issues raised if that is the inspiration from the above quote. tommy

Actually, I found your post fascinating (on the Revalations Thread). In fact I'm still looking at it. It has given me much to reflect upon.

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Quahom1 · 06-15-2005, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lunamoth

Q, re-reading this thread I just discovered that you referred to the "log from the eye" verse as well. Just wanted you to know I was not referring to your post in any way.

lunamoth

What? Eh? I'll have to get back to you later (&*&%# 2x4 stuck in my ear).

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tommy · 06-15-2005, 03:53 PM

All of your Christian brotherly and sisterly love continues to fascinate me here. I was afraid to come back in here after my post on Revelations are your ready (great idea putting that one up Quahom1) because I thought there would be some comments that were going to damage my soul telling me how wrong I am. Revelations tells me that nation, political powers, government and organized religion have somewhat led us astray over the years from Godly worship and the very thing we trust, nation, government and polital powers and will in my opinion lead to the war in Revelations. It all makes so much sense to me now that at some point we are going to hear in the news that the US and the UN are going to take quick action bla, bla, bla,...(my dream last night in Bush's voice)

the twin headed beast...All we can do as individuals is live our lives with Godly devotion and hopefully we end up on Gods side in the war if it is during our life. Sometimes its best to turn off Revelations and listen to the King Solomon stuff, he's great, especially when you start talking like him to work people

ect.. Got to get back to work today, been a bit lazy lately doing this more interesting stuff here. blessings, tommy

Quahom1 · 06-15-2005, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by juantoo3

Kindest Regards, all!

I can't help but get a tickle out of this thread,

!

Tommy, your search is commendable. Keep looking, you will find if you keep the "right" attitude and spirit.

A little sidebar that might or might not help, some teach that the "new wine" was grape juice, that is, non-alcoholic. I don't know that I agree, but it is something to consider. I do agree that alcohol in moderation is good for the body and soul. Unless one is a recovering alcoholic.

But I have to laugh at the driving drunk on a donkey thought!

Juan, Grape juice does not cause old intestines (wine skins) to explode. New fermented wine will cause old wine skins to rupture...(trust me on this)...

Wine making 101 (Henley style). Grandpa taught me a bible lesson with real life tools and material. The laugh was his, but the lesson was mine.

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Quahom1 · 06-15-2005, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tommy

All of your Christian brotherly and sisterly love continues to fascinate me here. I was afraid to come back in here after my post on Revelations are your ready (great idea putting that one up Quahom1) because I thought there would be some comments that were going to damage my soul telling me how wrong I am. Revelations tells me that nation, political powers, government and organized religion have somewhat led us astray over the years from Godly worship and the very thing we trust, nation, government and polital powers and will in my opinion lead to the war in Revelations. It all makes so much sense to me now that at some point we are going to hear in the news that the US and the UN are going to take quick action bla, bla, bla,...(my dream last night in Bush's voice)

the twin headed beast...All we can do as individuals is live our lives with Godly devotion and hopefully we end up on Gods side in the war if it is during our life. Sometimes its best to turn off Revelations and listen to the King Solomon stuff, he's great, especially when you start talking like him to work people

ect.. Got to get back to work today, been a bit lazy lately doing this more interesting stuff here. blessings, tommy

the battle is from powers and principalities of the air...not from people. God puts people in power, and God takes people from power. The battle is not earthly, nor is it intermittent...it continues on day and night. Instead of condemning a man, consider praying for the fact that God allowed a man to be in authority. Oohh that is a hard prayer indeed. Must climb out of the box to consider such...

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tommy · 06-15-2005, 07:59 PM

Whoops, another break at work, hope the Boss doesn't bust me. In my prior money world I voted for him. Yes I did, thought the stock market was going to go up and I would have more money? I am not going to tackle this one, maybe someone else want to. Two songs are playing in my head, one Joe Walsh in E-minor sung slow, "Why how slow we learn...", another Don Henley sung in the chord of C, "I think its about foregiveness, even if you don't love me anymore", the problems nations have failed with. I am only going to give the Scriptures where I can find Nation coming up in the Bible 23 times and others can comment if they want on the issue of God and how it relates to nations.Ex. 19:6,2:Sa 7:23, Ps 9:17, Ps 33:12, Isa 2:2, Isa 26:2 Isa 66:8, Hag 2:7, Mt 12:21, 24:7, 24:14, 25:32, Lu 21:24, 21:35, 23:2, Ac 15:14, Eph 4:17, IPe 2:12 Re 11:18 Ge 22:18, ac 10:35, Ro 3:29 and Rev 7.9.

Quahom1 · 06-15-2005, 08:15 PM

You are richer than the eyes of Lazurus. (And he saw God). Everything else is fodder. But, don't jeapordize your job for this place. We are here when you come home (after you tend to wife and kids...) That too is Biblical.

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tommy · 06-15-2005, 09:32 PM

Thanks for the kind words. I'm getting to like you more and more everyday, quahom1. All scripture is inspired by God and the blessings belong to him for loving us enough to give us the grand Bible. I work in the field often and I am heading to an afternoon Bible Study with my wife to take Jehovahs and Jesus' blessings sand back into my home tonight since I have feeling somewhat low in ifaith lately. After being the #2 sales rep I got sent to St. Thomas for an honors conference last my month. Then, the company took half my sales territory and I am close to the bottom, should this not be something one should feel bad about? More time to study the Bible

Have you noticed the current trend of those seeking God are losing out in the material gains, king of funny. Bless ya Big guy!

Quahom1 · 06-15-2005, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by tommy

Whoops, another break at work, hope the Boss doesn't bust me. In my prior money world I voted for him. Yes I did, thought the stock market was going to go up and I would have more money? I am not going to tackle this one, maybe someone else want to. Two songs are playing in my head, one Joe Walsh in E-minor sung slow, "Why how slow we learn...", another Don Henley sung in the chord of C, "I think its about foregiveness, even if you don't love me anymore", the problems nations have failed with. I am only going to give the Scriptures where I can find Nation coming up in the Bible 23 times and others can comment if they want on the issue of God and how it relates to nations.Ex. 19:6,2:Sa 7:23, Ps 9:17, Ps 33:12, Isa 2:2, Isa 26:2 Isa 66:8, Hag 2:7, Mt 12:21, 24:7, 24:14, 25:32, Lu 21:24, 21:35, 23:2, Ac 15:14, Eph 4:17, IPe 2:12 Re 11:18 Ge 22:18, ac 10:35, Ro 3:29 and Rev 7.9.

Be best to leave family out of this...

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tommy · 06-15-2005, 10:29 PM

The stack of toys were piling up. Now the stack of Bibles with different translations are piling up. Which is better for the family. However, I like todays technology being able to send this from the car. Walking into the Kingdom Hall. See ya!

tommy · 06-15-2005, 11:58 PM

Great Bible Study, the theme was how Satan owns the material things and God wants the spiritual things. Funny how that happened? Here is another song you can sing in the G chord by Lennon McCartney, "tell me that you got everything you want, and your bird can sing, but you don't get me". "When your bird is broken, will it bring you down...". Last year I recieved a $42,000 bonus all at once. Satan the devil took hold of me. The materialism set in and outside of other temptations I once had I needed solar pannels to heat my pool. Once connected it started springing leaks. No time to relax and enjoy it. Your point is well taken about taking care of the family, but King Solomom will be the first to tell you, happyness comes from a true devotion to God. He had everything he wanted, slaves and 700 wifes and still wasn't truly happy. Since this thread is on wine, I think I am going to go home and have a glass or two in moderation.

May Christ and God be with you in your households tonight and everynight. tommy