What about the book of Daniel?

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by InChristAlways

Interesting. The only second coming I saw was at the end of the 70 weeks in Daniel concluding with the Day of the Lord in Daniel 12.
Perhaps the confusion lies in what kind of "City" God was talking about in Daniel 9:25?
Depending on whether it was a "spiritual city/kingdom" the messiah would build, or a physical city, but in either case, Daniel 12 is for/against the Nation of Israel...

Well, then you missed the angels telling the faithful as they watched Jesus depart, "Why are you staring into the sky? Don't you realize that as the Son departed, so shall He return in like manner...? (para) That is in the NT, not the Book of Daniel.

I also find it ironic that the NT, reinforces promises made in the OT, and then makes more for the time to come, and no one seems to see that. It's like the two shall never come together, when in fact they are intertwined.

Maybe that is why Jesus warned us not to fixate on the law, but rather upon the law giver, and eachother...then again, maybe not.

v/r

Q

[InChristAlways]

Originally Posted by mee
the whole concept of that Mosque being removed from that "rock" sends shivers...

1914 has lots to do with the book of daniel and the book of revelation what a thrilling time we are living in, all of the prophecies are coming true , spiritual jews from all nations are sealed .the book of revelation is full of symbolisim
But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother(galations 4;26)

(Philippians 3:20) As for us, our citizenship exists in the heavens, from which place also we are eagerly waiting for a savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,

Hi mee. Perhaps it was God Himself that had that nice pretty looking Gold Dome set there for a reason? Islam idolizes that as much as the OC corrupt, murderous and cursed jewish rulers/Priests idolized their own Temple in the first century. And thus, the present "wailing wall" the jews pray at instead of an altar and Tabernacle/Santuary. Of course we don't physically see the "thorn and bramble" today, but trust me, "they" are there.

Hosea 10:8 And destroyed have been high places of Aven, the sin of Israel. Thorn and bramble go up on their altars, And they have said to hills, Cover us, And to heights, Fall upon us.

I suggest you look at what Q is telling you as you appear to still be "carnal" by looking at dates and times. [A mistake christian "historicists" make with the Divine Book of Life]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

Well, then you missed the angels telling the faithful as they watched Jesus depart, "Why are you staring into the sky? Don't you realize that as the Son departed, so shall He return in like manner...? (para) That is in the NT, not the Book of Daniel.

I also find it ironic that the NT, reinforces promises made in the OT, and then makes more for the time to come, and no one seems to see that. It's like the two shall never come together, when in fact they are intertwined.

Maybe that is why Jesus warned us not to fixate on the law, but rather upon the law giver, and eachother...then again, maybe not.
v/r
Q

Hi Q. Jesus was of course telling the Disciples about that event in Acts 1, and they would have to be "raised" first to see that, and why the ecclesia "rapture to the air" theory is "false".

Paul emphasized that whatever happens would happen to the OC jews first then the gentiles. I view Daniel 12 as a "beginning" not an "end" and you are correct that through evangelizing the Word of God, more would come to a better understanding of God's purpose for mankind on this planet.

I am in touch with others trying to harmonize Daniel to the Olivet Discourse and revelation and I appreciate your thoughts brother.
Steve

Daniel 8:25 `And by his understanding he hath also caused deceit to prosper in his hand, and in his heart he exalts himself, and by ease he destroyeth/corrupts many; and against the Prince [#08269] of Princes [#08269] he standeth--and without hand he ["adversary"] is broken in pieces [#07665].

Hosea 1:5 and it hath come to pass in that day that I have broken in pieces [#07765] the "hunting/archers bow"[#07198] of Israel, in the valley of Jezreel.'

Jeremiah 31: 33 For this [is] the covenant that I make, With the house of Israel, after those days, An affirmation of Jehovah, I have given My law in their inward part, And on their heart I do write it, And I have been to them for God, And they are to me for a people.

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by InChristAlways

Hi mee. Perhaps it was God Himself that had that nice pretty looking Gold Dome set there for a reason? Islam idolizes that as much as the OC corrupt, murderous and cursed jewish rulers/Priests idolized their own Temple in the first century. And thus, the present "wailing wall" the jews pray at instead of an altar and Tabernacle/Santuary. Of course we don't physically see the "thorn and bramble" today, but trust me, "they" are there. I suggest you look at what Q is telling you as you appear to still be "carnal" by looking at dates and times. [A mistake christian "historicists" make with the Divine Book of Life]
Hi Q. Jesus was of course telling the Disciples about that event in Acts 1, and they would have to be "raised" first to see that, and why the ecclesia "rapture to the air" theory is "false".

Paul emphasized that whatever happens would happen to the OC jews first then the gentiles. I view Daniel 12 as a "beginning" not an "end" and you are correct that through evangelizing the Word of God, more would come to a better understanding of God's purpose for mankind on this planet.

I am in touch with others trying to harmonize Daniel to the Olivet Discourse and revelation and I appreciate your thoughts brother.
Steve

Daniel 8:25 `And by his understanding he hath also caused deceit to prosper in his hand, and in his heart he exalts himself, and by ease he destroyeth/corrupts many; and against the Prince [#08269] of Princes [#08269] he standeth--and without hand he ["adversary"] is broken in pieces [#07665].

Hosea 1:5 and it hath come to pass in that day that I have broken in pieces [#07765] the "hunting/archers bow"[#07198] of Israel, in the valley of Jezreel.'

Jeremiah 31: 33 For this [is] the covenant that I make, With the house of Israel, after those days, An affirmation of Jehovah, I have given My law in their inward part, And on their heart I do write it, And I have been to them for God, And they are to me for a people.

Steve,

I make jokes about being a military man (keep it simple, stupid), and the truth is I am. I hear an order that is true, and right, and I step up smartly and carry it out. I hear an order that is (unreasonable, illegal, and/or against good keepings with the honor and integrity of the United States), I could have used a simpler word but you get the idea...I call it, and have been called on the carpet for it.

I believe people like me, and Thomas, and Mee and you, believe what we believe is absolute truth. But I know better. Been there, done that, it ain't all that. Not everything is as it seems. In fact nothing is as it seems. That is why our God invites us into a "personal" relationship with Him...then we have no doubt. No other religion, no other faith (except maybe the native American beliefs), has a God that invites us to be personal with Him...

Blessed indeed we are. Privileged we are, and very stupid if we don't take Him up on His offer.

We all see through dark lenses...let us not forget that.

Merry Christmas to you and yours.

Q

[InChristAlways]

I believe people like me, and Thomas, and Mee and you, believe what we believe is absolute truth. But I know better. Been there, done that, it ain't all that. Not everything is as it seems. In fact nothing is as it seems. That is why our God invites us into a "personal" relationship with Him...then we have no doubt. No other religion, no other faith (except maybe the native American beliefs), has a God that invites us to be personal with Him...

Blessed indeed we are. Privileged we are, and very stupid if we don't take Him up on His offer.

We all see through dark lenses...let us not forget that.

Merry Christmas to you and yours.

Nice post Q and AMEN to that!!!!.

Thank you Lord Jesus for opening my eyes to your divine Words in the Book of Life.
I am still interested in Daniel 11/12 though and I am assuming Paul wrote his epistles near mid first century, though I am not focusing on "dates/times"?. The OC was Law/Death, the NC is Life though the Words of Christ.

Merry Christmas to you and yours in Peace and Love.
Steve

John 11:48 if we may let Him alone thus, all will believe in Him; and the Romans will come, and will take away both our place and nation.'

2 Thessalonians 2:11 and because of this shall God send to them a working of delusion/error [#4106], for their believing the lie,

Daniel 8:25 `And by his understanding he hath also caused deceit to prosper in his hand, and in his heart he exalts himself, and by ease he destroyeth/corrupts many; and against the Prince [#08269] of Princes [#08269] he standeth--and without hand he ["adversary"]is broken in pieces.

Daniel 12:1 `And at that time stand up doth Michael, the great chief/prince [#08269], who is standing up for the sons of thy people, and there hath been a time of distress, such as hath not been since there hath been a nation till that time, and at that time do thy people escape, every one who is found written in the book.

[mee]

What about the book of Daniel?



ITS THILLING especially in these the last days Daniel 12;4

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by mee

What about the book of Daniel?



ITS THILLING especially in these the last days Daniel 12;4

i know it is kind of awesome as the religions will be over

4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and aseal the bbook, even to the ctime of the end: many shall run to and fro, and dknowledge shall be increased.


5 ¶ Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.


6 And one said to the man aclothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?


7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and asware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to bscatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.


8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the aend of these things?


9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and asealed till the time of the end.


10 Many shall be apurified, and made white, and btried; but the cwicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall dunderstand.



WHY? BECAUSE OF UNDERSTANDING!

Why? Because the time had yet to come; the comes from the birth that was said to come. Something about a 6/66 period in history

27`And both of the kings' hearts [are] to do evil, and at one table they speak lies, and it doth not prosper, for yet the end [is] at a time appointed.




What time is it? It's hammer time!


Even Jesus said another is coming

24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father’s which sent me.

25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.


26 But the aComforter, which of the bHoly Ghost, whom the Father will send in my cname, he shall dteach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

you remember Jesus right?

[mee]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

you remember Jesus right?

yes indeed ,and right now in these the last days the true knowledge is abundant Daniel 12;4



Jesus has been given kingship in Gods heavenly kingdom goverment Daniel 7;13-14 Daniel 2;44
(Ezekiel 21:26, 27)



And its all happening in these the last days (since 1914)true knowledge is abundant indeed

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by mee

yes indeed ,and right now in these the last days the true knowledge is abundant Daniel 12;4



Jesus has been given kingship in Gods heavenly kingdom goverment Daniel 7;13-14 Daniel 2;44
(Ezekiel 21:26, 27)



And its all happening in these the last days (since 1914)true knowledge is abundant indeed

Master of the obvious...

[mee]

What about the book of Daniel?


or even what about Daniel himself?
More than any other prophet, Daniel had the work of witnessing to Gentile dignitaries.



Although he often had to deliver unpopular messages, he did not treat these rulers as if they were abhorrent or in some way beneath him.

He spoke to them respectfully and skillfully. There were some—such as those jealous, scheming satraps—who wanted to destroy Daniel.


Yet, other dignitaries came to respect him.

Because Jehovah enabled Daniel to explain secrets that mystified kings and wise men, the prophet gained great prominence. (Daniel 2:47, 48; 5:29)

True, as he aged, he could not be as active as in his youth. But he surely went to his end(in death) still faithfully seeking any way in which he could serve as a witness of his beloved God.

Daniel was one of these ones
‘You are my witnesses,’ is the utterance of Jehovah, ‘even my servant whom I have chosen.’" (Isaiah 43:10)

he was one of JEHOVAHS WITNESSES

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by mee

yes indeed ,and right now in these the last days the true knowledge is abundant Daniel 12;4

and what is new and true about it?

Jesus has been given kingship in Gods heavenly kingdom goverment Daniel 7;13-14 Daniel 2;44
(Ezekiel 21:26, 27)

By whom?... the Jewish folk who held the torah, did not accept Jesus as if of Daniel/Ezekiel............ that was from the people after Jesus' death

And its all happening in these the last days (since 1914)true knowledge is abundant indeed

and in 1914 when the witnessess began lying about jesus' return, then it seems the same OLD fibs are still intact

what is NEW that gives life and allows each human on earth equality?

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

and what is new and true about it?

By whom?... the Jewish folk who held the torah, did not accept Jesus as if of Daniel/Ezekiel............ that was from the people after Jesus' death[/font]


and in 1914 when the witnessess began lying about jesus' return, then it seems the same OLD fibs are still intact

what is NEW that gives life and allows each human on earth equality?

The US Constitution seems to finally becoming a good start...

[Bishadi]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

The US Constitution seems to finally becoming a good start...

perhaps the words of equality and 'we the people'............

weeeeeeeeeeeee the people are the children of God and weeeeeeeeeee the people are who are the judges

and weeeeeeeeeeeeee the people are equal as well consciously capable of comprehending the truth equally


weeeeeeeeeeeee the people are the globe in total and with 'truth' as the stablizing factor, as the knowledge is non-biased but true to existence (God) in which all nature, the works of the religious contributors and the prophetic revelations of mankind do in fact combine and with the correct knowledge that can be understood by weeeeeeeeeee the people,then we are each capable of living forever by choice as promised by many.

[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

If God is for us, who can stand against us?

Ourselves...

[Bishadi]

exactly!

man created every word in existence and this fact stands true with absolute reality

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Bishadi

perhaps the words of equality and 'we the people'............

weeeeeeeeeeeee the people are the children of God and weeeeeeeeeee the people are who are the judges

and weeeeeeeeeeeeee the people are equal as well consciously capable of comprehending the truth equally


weeeeeeeeeeeee the people are the globe in total and with 'truth' as the stablizing factor, as the knowledge is non-biased but true to existence (God) in which all nature, the works of the religious contributors and the prophetic revelations of mankind do in fact combine and with the correct knowledge that can be understood by weeeeeeeeeee the people,then we are each capable of living forever by choice as promised by many.

yeah, We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,[1] promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America. buy that and then we can talk...