What are the Differences between the Abrahamic Faiths?

[Muslimwoman]

Originally Posted by InLove

One of the things I have wanted to talk about for a while is the story of Ishmael and Hagar, but I am not sure whether this is a subject I should bring up.

Hello my sister in peace

Of course you should bring it up, it is certainly a subject I would like to discuss and hear others views on. Find a relevant thread and let's start those opinions rolling - if we can't discuss religious issues here where can we discuss them?

Perhaps the family you nearly married into simply found it difficult to discuss our religious differences, if they really liked you (which I am sure they did), they may have been afraid to offend you or cause 'ripples' between you and your intended?

I know what you mean about selective verses, we hear them all the time about the bible. Yet look at the thread about seeing your father naked and seattlegal's brilliant post regarding the mothers nakedness belonging to the father - a little light went ping in my head and all became clear. So there is one misconception cleared up through dialogue.

Please let me know where you put the Ismael & Hagar thread so I can see if any more lights go on.

alfa salaam my dear friend

[post-abrahamic]

Do Muslims know the root meaning of their Arabic word, "Islam"? Do they know for example that the word is derived from the Hebrew word for peace, "shalom" and that the Hebrew word is derived from the Canaanite name for the Evening Star worshiped on Mt. Moriah in Jerusalem as the god of peace?

It amazes me that modern Muslims can still believe a 7th century man can write a book holding all the correct answers to life. Well, the Christian true believers were brought up short pretty quickly in the 20th century but Muslims seem still at the infallible literal belief stage with their Qurans. It would do the world a world of good if Muslims joined the modern world and stopped obeying ancient men's rules and ideas about things.

Same thing can be said of Evangelical Christians too. The world doesn't need any more blind faith believers willing to ignore universal morality if their god so commands.

[wil]

Originally Posted by post-abrahamic

Do Muslims know the root meaning of their Arabic word, "Islam"? It would do the world a world of good if Muslims joined the modern world and stopped obeying ancient men's rules and ideas about things.

Same thing can be said of Evangelical Christians too. The world doesn't need any more blind faith believers willing to ignore universal morality if their god so commands.

Could this possibly be the same fellow that derided us for making such generalist and racist statements?

Do you feel your statements are beneficial to discussion or are you painting large groups into corners where an expected response would be to come out swinging?

Maybe you are ahead of the curve...and the abrahamic discussions are not the place for one who has moved on to post-abrahamic...

[Saltmeister]

Originally Posted by post-abrahamic

Do Muslims know the root meaning of their Arabic word, "Islam"? Do they know for example that the word is derived from the Hebrew word for peace, "shalom" and that the Hebrew word is derived from the Canaanite name for the Evening Star worshiped on Mt. Moriah in Jerusalem as the god of peace?

I've been told Islam means "submission" or "surrender."

A definition from Islam: Definition and Much More from Answers.com sheds some light on the matter:

Arabic ’islam, submission, from ’aslama, to surrender, resign oneself, from Syriac ’ašlem, to make peace, surrender, derived stem of šlem, to be complete.

Originally Posted by post-abrahamic

It amazes me that modern Muslims can still believe a 7th century man can write a book holding all the correct answers to life. Well, the Christian true believers were brought up short pretty quickly in the 20th century but Muslims seem still at the infallible literal belief stage with their Qurans. It would do the world a world of good if Muslims joined the modern world and stopped obeying ancient men's rules and ideas about things.

Same thing can be said of Evangelical Christians too. The world doesn't need any more blind faith believers willing to ignore universal morality if their god so commands.

Are you talking about all Muslims and Christians or just some of them? ie. those living in the progressive and dynamic West or those in ..... not so progressed countries?

Does that include modern-minded Muslims?
Are you talking just about Evangelicals?

Sometimes those that are despised are really just misunderstood people. Once you get to know them, they're not so bad.....

They have strange ways, and their actions seem nonsensical. But then you start living and breathing in their shoes, and maybe you start to realise and understand what they live for, stand for and their beliefs and goals. Even then you might not agree with them, but to appreciate and understand -- it's a complete paradigm shift. A completely different reality.

Reality Before: these people are just a bunch of nuts.

Reality After: I never knew I could see things that way.

[Muslimwoman]

Thankyou Saltmeister, that saved me a job. You are correct about the root of the word Islam and it's meaning, it is "surrender" or "Submission". There are however many words in arabic and Hebrew that share the same root, if you go back far enough. Just look at the english language and the many languages/cultures our vocab has come from.

Postabrahamic, if you wish to have dialogue it may be better to ask respectful questions or ask for opinions of your 'understanding' of my faith? Just a thought.

[Nabeel]

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[the_seaker]

hi all, could somebody please explain to me or even better compare and contrast the three Abrahamic faiths in these four categories:

1.Sacred persons (patriarchs, prophets,etc)
2.Sacred places (pilgrimage, worship,etc)
3.Sacred times (holidays, etc)
4.Rituals (prayer, eating,etc)

If anyone could explain it to me in point for it would be great.
Thank you all, i read as much as i could of all the posts! But its just too much information!

[madeinrussia89]

Originally Posted by the_seaker

hi all, could somebody please explain to me or even better compare and contrast the three Abrahamic faiths in these four categories:

1.Sacred persons (patriarchs, prophets,etc)
2.Sacred places (pilgrimage, worship,etc)
3.Sacred times (holidays, etc)
4.Rituals (prayer, eating,etc)

If anyone could explain it to me in point for it would be great.
Thank you all, i read as much as i could of all the posts! But its just too much information!

I know you asked for all three, but the truth is that I can only comment on Christianity, and that from an orthodox perspective.

so, here we go.

1. Persons: Jesus Christ (number one), the Apostles, the Saints, the Angels, the Virgin Mary, 9 Patriarchs, ( Constantinople, Africa, Antioch & the East, Jerusalem & Israel & Palestine & Jordan & Arabia, Russia, George, Serbia & Kosovo & Montenegro, Romania, and Bulgaria), The Pope (to Catholics) bishops, priests, and the laity

2. Sacred Places: Jerusalem, Nazareth, Bethlehem (the list goes on and on)

3. Sacred Times:
(man, there is a lot, so here are a few big ones)

The Nativity - Birth of Jesus Christ

Theophany/Epiphany - The Shining Forth and Revelation
of Jesus Christ as the Messiah and his baptism

Pentecost - The Descent of the Holy Spirit

Pascha (Easter) - The Resurrection of Jesus Christ

Great Lent - super-fasting time

The Annunciation - When Gabriel told Mary that
she would conceive the son of God

The Ascension - When Jesus ascended to Heaven

4. Rituals: (I'll try to keep this as general and not specifically orthodoxy)

Fasting

Prayer

Baptism

Almsgiving

Communion/Eucharist

Repentence

Marriage

[madeinrussia89]

Hope that helps.