What happens according to the Bible when you Kick the Bucket.

[Basstian]

With all the talk about spirits and saints and such.
I just thought I would ask everybody to provide there take on what happens when you die and please provide scripture that backs your belief.

Get ready because within the Christian faith this is one of those things people cant seem to agree on and I assure you this will be a debate.

I believe the Bible to be correct on this issue from cover to cover (though I was taught something different as a child)

Now I know you will be tempted to use outside sources. But my desire is to rightly divide the word of truth (Bible) so I am requesting that all references be kept to scripture as recorded in the Bible.
(I cant make anybody play by those rules but would request you do )

I will compile my scripture and post again later. Thought I would give everybody else a chance to do the same.

[Bandit]

hmmm

i have this for now cause i am going to sleep. i think there is something in there about sleep, like asleep in Christ?

now i lay me down to sleep i pray the Lord my soul to keep
if i should die before i wake
i pray the Lord my soul to take
amen

[Basstian]

Originally Posted by Bandit

now i lay me down to sleep i pray the Lord my soul to keep
if i should die before i wake
i pray the Lord my soul to take
amen

Now Bandit thats not a Bible verse LOL Didnt think you'd be first to break my rule guess thats why we call ya Bandit

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Basstian

Now Bandit thats not a Bible verse LOL Didnt think you'd be first to break my rule guess thats why we call ya Bandit

In accordance with your request:

One Minute After Death

What happens when we breathe our final breath? The Bible teaches what will occur.

First our immaterial soul and spirit will be separated from our physical body. Second, we will immediately receive the judgment that will determine our eternal destiny. Those who have trusted in Christ's payment on the cross for our sins will enter into eternal life in the presence of God. 2 Corinthians 5:8 states, "We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord." There will be no delay in a state of unconsciousness many call "soul sleep." We will immediately be in God's presence.

Second, the soul in heaven is made perfect in holiness and our old sin nature is eradicated. Hebrews 12:23 mentions "the spirits of righteous men made perfect." The spirits of the saints are in heaven and they have been made perfect. The struggle with sin that Paul described and all Christians fight comes to an end forever when we, after death, enter our glorified state.

(D'oh! Sacred I now understand what you were trying to say about perfect souls. You just said it too fast, too soon.)
Those who reject this gift, will receive what they have chosen, eternity separated from God in Hell. Hebrews 9:27 states, "Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment." There is no second chance and there is no cycle of reincarnation. Our eternal destiny is determined by the decision we make for Christ here on earth.

Many assume that after receiving Christ all that remains is a joyful entrance into heaven. Scripture teaches that Jesus will reward us according to how we lived our life on earth. He taught this principle in the parable of the talents in Luke 19. Each servant was entrusted to administer the talents the master gave him. Upon the return of the master, each servant had to give an account for his stewardship. The wise servants were rewarded doubly while the wicked servant was removed.

The lesson for the Christian is that each of us will give an account for our time here on earth. This is not the same as being judged on our salvation status. Christ's death on the cross allows all who believe to enter God's kingdom. We will be judged on our works done since the time of our salvation. This judgment of believers is called the Bema Seat judgment. This event is described in 1 Corinthians 3:11-15:

I personally, ain't sleepin' in six feet of dirt, not if I can help it...

v/r

Q

[Basstian]

After starting this thread and giving it alot of thought. I found out why God had lead me to study this. My Dad who I have been caring for the last 2 1/2 yrs passed away 3/20/05 this same evening.

I would thank you all for your prayers and hope you will understand my delay in replies.

I would like to continue reading your views but am taking my time with this study more for comfort than question.

I do know I have seen first hand the mercy of God in this and also prayer answered in big ways. He suffered a stroke and left fast and without pain. Having severe COPD he could have suffered much longer which is something I prayed God would not allow. He after a life time of being an atheist prayed with me everynight for the last couple months not letting me leave at night without reaching the Lord in prayer this too was a major answer to prayers I have had for many years.

1th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
1th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1th 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

[lunamoth]

You and yours are in my prayers tonight, Basstian.
It's clear that he ended the race well.

Peace,
lunamoth

[Sacredstar]

Dear Basstian love, light and healing thoughts for you and your father.

May he rest in peace forevermore.

Dear All

I am guided to post this response from our Lord to your question.

1 Corinthians 2:4-16 NIV

My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit's power, so that your faith might not rest on men's wisdom, but on God's power.

Wisdom From the Spirit

6. We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing.

7. No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began.

8 None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

9 However, as it is written: “No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him”

10 but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit.

The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God.

11 For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.

12 We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us.

13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.

14 The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.

15 The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:

16“For who has known the mind of the Lord  that he may instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ.

3:23 You are of Christ and Christ is of GOD

Brothers I could not address you as spiritual but as worldly - mere infants in Christ. I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it. Indeed you are still not ready.

1 Corinthians 3:1-2.

Love beyond measure

Kim xx

[Bandit]

Basstian, I dont really know exactly what happens when we kick the bucket but I do have a glimpse. Q did a nice job pulling some of that together.

My mother had a life after death experience when giving birth. I will talk to her soon and get that to you in a PM.

Eccl12:7Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

The body goes back to the earth, which we know that is what Adam came from. But the germlife of Adam does not die and lives on in each generation. The spirit belongs to God and goes back to God.

John6:40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Below is talking about the resurrection.


1Cor.15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
15:53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
15:54So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.


this is part of an old hymn by dottie rambo that sure did help me get through some hard times.

All the things that I love
and hold dear to my heart
they are borrowed and
not mine at all
Jesus only let me use them
to brighten my life
So remind me, remind me dear Lord

Chorus:
Roll back the curtain of memory now and then
show me where you brought me from and
where i could have been
just remember I'm a human and human's forget
so remind me, remind me dear Lord

[Bandit]

Here we have mention of those who sleep in Christ. So it is not really the end, but more like a sleep.




I Thessalonians 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Sacredstar

Dear Basstian love, light and healing thoughts for you and your father.

May he rest in peace forevermore.

Dear All

I am guided to post this response from our Lord to your question.

1 Corinthians 2:4-16 NIV

My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit's power, so that your faith might not rest on men's wisdom, but on God's power.

Wisdom From the Spirit

6. We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing.

7. No, we speak of God's secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began.

8 None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

9 However, as it is written: “No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no mind has conceived what God has prepared for those who love him”

10 but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit.

The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God.

11 For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God.

12 We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us.

13 This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.

14 The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.

15 The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment:

16“For who has known the mind of the Lord that he may instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ.

3:23 You are of Christ and Christ is of GOD

Brothers I could not address you as spiritual but as worldly - mere infants in Christ. I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not ready for it. Indeed you are still not ready.

1 Corinthians 3:1-2.

Love beyond measure

Kim xx

That was nice...

v/r

Q

[Faithfulservant]

Ive been looking through all the new threads since Ive been back and this is the first one that Ive been compelled to post on. I would like to share a few scriptures on this subject that give me great peace.

2Cor5:6-8 So we are always confident, knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord. For we walk by faith, not by sight. We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord.

Luke 23:43 And Jesus said to him, "Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise."

*hugs* Basstian Im sorry for your loss but I rejoice for your father because he is with our Lord.

I believe that when we die our souls depart our bodies.. our bodies turn to dust to one day be resurrected.. now where our souls go depends entirely on the acceptance of Christ as your saviour.. If you believe that Christ is your salvation and the only means to the Father if you have done this then yes you will go to heaven if you do not well Jesus says it himself that if you do not believe then you are condemned already. The road is narrow and we have been given the choice of which direction to take..

[Marsh]

Originally Posted by Quahom1

In accordance with your request:

One Minute After Death

What happens when we breathe our final breath? The Bible teaches what will occur...

Those who reject this gift, will receive what they have chosen, eternity separated from God in Hell. Hebrews 9:27 states, "Just as man is destined to die once, and after that to face judgment." There is no second chance and there is no cycle of reincarnation. Our eternal destiny is determined by the decision we make for Christ here on earth.

My reading of the Bible is different. Isn't "Hell" as used by Jesus a reference to the Lake of Fire, prepared for the final judgment. And if that final judgment has not occurred yet, isn't it fair to say that people don't go to Hell when they die, but rather that they go somewhere else? After all, if Hell is final destruction, how can the dead be resurrected out of complete destruction to face the final judgment, as described in Revelation?

I don't think the choice is an either-or one. If it is, then issues such as "What happened to the ones who died before Jesus' time" are quite sticky. On the other hand, if there is more than just the one extremely good option and the other extremely bad option, then issues such as this one are much more easily explainable. My bias is that I think God wants us to understand his ways, even though they are higher than our own.

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Marsh

My reading of the Bible is different. Isn't "Hell" as used by Jesus a reference to the Lake of Fire, prepared for the final judgment. And if that final judgment has not occurred yet, isn't it fair to say that people don't go to Hell when they die, but rather that they go somewhere else? After all, if Hell is final destruction, how can the dead be resurrected out of complete destruction to face the final judgment, as described in Revelation?

I don't think the choice is an either-or one. If it is, then issues such as "What happened to the ones who died before Jesus' time" are quite sticky. On the other hand, if there is more than just the one extremely good option and the other extremely bad option, then issues such as this one are much more easily explainable. My bias is that I think God wants us to understand his ways, even though they are higher than our own.

are you talking about purgatory?

[Dor]

Basstian sorry for your loss but lets rejoice for him.

Originally Posted by Sacredstar

3:23 You are of Christ and Christ is of GOD

1Cr 3:23And ye are Christ's; and Christ [is] God's.
NIV is not a very good translation to use for the most part they have changed alot of things to make it say what they want it to say.

Originally Posted by Marsh

Isn't "Hell" as used by Jesus a reference to the Lake of Fire, prepared for the final judgment. And if that final judgment has not occurred yet, isn't it fair to say that people don't go to Hell when they die, but rather that they go somewhere else? After all, if Hell is final destruction, how can the dead be resurrected out of complete destruction to face the final judgment, as described in Revelation?

"Hell" I don't take as the Lake of Fire or necessarily as final destruction as it says on revelation during the final judgement.
Rev 20:12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is [the book] of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. Rev 20:13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. Rev 20:14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. Rev 20:15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.


So it seems to me that the people in hell are taken out of hell and judged then hell and the people not in the book are cast into the lake of fire which is then final destruction.

[Basstian]

Thank you all for your prayers and concern My family is doing well and rejoicing that regardless the answer to this question my been is not suffering as he has been.



Now everybody has used about everyverse in the NT there is to show their view. And all are valid and must be given place. I would like to throw the wisdom of Solomon in the mix just to see how His view is taken in line with the NT.

Ec 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
Ec 9:6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.
Ec 9:7 Go thy way, eat thy bread with joy, and drink thy wine with a merry heart; for God now accepteth thy works.
Ec 9:8 Let thy garments be always white; and let thy head lack no ointment.
Ec 9:9 Live joyfully with the wife whom thou lovest all the days of the life of thy vanity, which he hath given thee under the sun, all the days of thy vanity: for that is thy portion in this life, and in thy labour which thou takest under the sun.
Ec 9:10Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.