What Is Liberal Christianity?

[flowperson]

Originally Posted by RubySera_Martin

So I guess you don't want me to know what you're talking about and your call for comments was a joke.

Not a joke, but a considered opinion based upon symbolic interpretations (yeah, sort of like Robert Langdon's) of culturally important mythologies from around the world including biblical stories and metaphor; and, artifacts that point to certain anthropomorphic representations in ancient cultures.

This third type of human would be more of a genotype variance (genome composition) as opposed to phenotype variance ( external appearance ) and would enable special abilities. I believe that we are seeing the flowering of the process at present, but it has been progressing slowly since the end of WWII. Of course this is only my opinion, but it has been developed over the past twenty years or so of headwork. Phenotype changes are usually the last things to appear in speciation shifts. It's the way that evolution works over time.

The modification of a species, as some of us discussed on a thread concerning finches, may sometimes be a sudden thing, but most often is a gradual series of small changes, the significance of which is not readily apparent until it has been tracked over a period of decades. But IMHO, some of us, as a part of a larger species group that has been around a very long time, are being changed into another group with common attributes.

IMO, this is mainly due to our living within and interacting with artificially constructed and operated environments as opposed to natural environments. The obesity epidemic, sexual ambiguities, accelerated childhood allergies, and accelerated brain and emotional disorders among the young would be just three of these gradual changes that we are acquainted with, and that seem to be accelerating with time

Again, let me emphasize that this is only my opinion, and if you wish to believe that I'm a living joke, or otherwise deranged in some ways, so be it. All things within nature change over time. We all are a part of nature because I DO believe that we were created to be just that by the Almighty. That is our most basic boundary limitation. All I know is that many of my conclusions have proven themselves to me over time.

You may ask me any question that you like about this, but my time for answering them is pretty much limited to my days off, Mondays and Thursdays.

Peace...flow....

[RubySera_Martin]

Originally Posted by Dondi

I would be most appreciative if you would expound on the idea of a third human type. If you believe that the first two human types are male and female, would the third type be some kind of conglomeration of the first two? I think we have this already...they are called hermaphrodites.

originally posted by flowperson:
Not a joke, but a considered opinion based upon symbolic interpretations (yeah, sort of like Robert Langdon's) of culturally important mythologies from around the world including biblical stories and metaphor; and, artifacts that point to certain anthropomorphic representations in ancient cultures.

Okay now I understand. I thought you were talking about cultures or races. I had no idea you were talking about the level of physiology.

I guess it is not without reason that I am preoccupied with cultural differences. I live with it every day of the week. I have never been exposed to the news media, TV, or radio, and I have no high school education. I simply don't know who Robert Langdon is. Never heard of him. I have no background in mythology.

The only "mainstream" background I have is my university education. Since the majority of the population has some high school and no university education I am not sure if even this can be considered "mainstream." It's weird. That's all.

The one thing I feel on par with others here is technology. I "came onto the scene" just before email was common. So I grew into it with others in my age group. So long as discussion sticks to religion and human nature and culture, I follow. The minute it turns to cultural basics that everybody learned in Grades 9 and 10, I'm lost.

I've found that most people are very willing to help me out if I explain that I know more about hitching a horse to a buggy and traveling to the city in all weather than I do about what fits into a car trunk. I know how to survive a snow storm in sub-zero weather on the open buggy. I don't know for sure how big boxes fit into a car trunk for moving. That's been quite a challenge for me. BTW, I don't drive, haven't got a driver's license and don't plan to get one. My vision is too low, considering that I am not familiar with cars.

Oops! I've wandered off-topic.

[flowperson]

Ruby:

Your wandering is a delight to us, at least to me. Robert Langdon is the ficticious hero of The DaVinci Code, and he is known for his academic expertise in symbolic interpretation.

Yes, your perspective is a different one, but definitely not weird ! If more of us hadn't been exposed to the mass media as we grew we probably wouldn't all be as confused as we are now. Media makes up the largest portion of human culture these days, and we participate mostly through casual observance. Not a very dynamic situation for all of us dynamicallty designed humans, huh ?

peace....flow....

[RubySera_Martin]

Originally Posted by flowperson

Ruby:

Your wandering is a delight to us, at least to me. Robert Langdon is the ficticious hero of The DaVinci Code, and he is known for his academic expertise in symbolic interpretation.

What a laugh! My excuses no longer work. I've been meaning to read the DaVinci Code for some time but haven't gotten gotten around to it yet. Maybe I will have to fit it in before classes start again in the fall. I'll have to see if the public library still has a waiting list for it. I wanted to loan it soon after it came out but there were limits on it at the time. Since it is about as much a part of our culture as Lord of the Rings I figure I should read it. That way I am at least in the loop on something. Besides, what you say about it makes it sound more interesting than anything I've yet heard.

Yes, your perspective is a different one, but definitely not weird !

Thank you, flow I sent you a pm to explain in more detail.

If more of us hadn't been exposed to the mass media as we grew we probably wouldn't all be as confused as we are now.

Hmmm. I never said I wasn't confused. I grew up very seriously confused. I'm still working on sorting things but I've come a long way.

Media makes up the largest portion of human culture these days, and we participate mostly through casual observance.

Fact of the matter is I now have a TV and with the internet I can access the media. I've always has access to newspapers. I just find it takes a LOT of time and is not condusive to sleeping at night. If bad things are going to happen they will happen whether or not I know about it in advance. Not knowing about it in advance spares me the worry. If it's something specific to this area like a tornado or ice storm (obviously for different times of the year), I'm sure to hear about it on the street on the bus.

[wil]

What if they weren't human?

Gen 1:26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, [b] and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them....
Gen3:21 The LORD God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them. 22 And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."

Could it be that this is inferring that we started out as spirit, like G-d? Like on of them? And then the story is inferring we became more when G-d put skin on, our garments of skin/flesh?

Another thought of a friend of mind during discussion after church, she indicated that the she saw the spirit, the essence of G-d, creation of G-d; man being tossed out of the garden and into the animal kingdom, now destined for evolution.

[flowperson]

This pluralism in reference to the Creator entities descends from the Hebrew versions of the story in which the "Elohim" decides to go down to the earth and create humans in their image and likeness. I'm fairly sure the name "Jehovah" comes from the "Elohim" origin, but maybe BB or Dauer can shed more light on this issue.

flow....

[neosnoia]

The important point about the story of Eden is not that it happened, but that it happens.

Cryptic eh?

[Saltmeister]

Originally Posted by neosnoia

The important point about the story of Eden is not that it happened, but that it happens.

Cryptic eh?

Ah, you mean the view that the story of Eden is not a single event but many events -- the episodes of life?

[neosnoia]

Originally Posted by Saltmeister

Ah, you mean the view that the story of Eden is not a single event but many events -- the episodes of life?

God walks with us everyday. We are faced with the tree of knowledge everyday. We are tempted by chaos (the serpent) everyday.

The story of the garden of eden is one of why things are the way they are.