What is our best hope for Peace on Earth?

[AndrewX]

Originally Posted by fourgrtkidos

Bruce Lipton, Ph.D. examines a different theory that makes more sense to me. Single celled organisms only get smarter when they become multicellular. Loose colonies or communites survive easier and with better standard of living than a single entity.
Bruce Lipton Ph.D.

Great observation, fourgrtkidos. I just wanted to say that if it weren't for Bruce Lipton, I might very well never have found my present spiritual path! When I was a freshman in college, in late 1990 or early 1991, a local esoteric group in Asheville, NC sponsored Dr. Lipton to come speak at the UNC Asheville campus (on `The Consciousness of the Cell'). I attended out of interest, and was invited afterwards, by a member of that group, to come to their regular meetings/meditations. I thus credit Dr. Liptop, and that group, with showing me the way, in this particular lifetime. Doors opened up for me, from that point forward, which might never have done so, otherwise!

So it's great to find out that 17 years later, folks are still reading about Bruce Lipton's discoveries, and realizing that yes, esotericism is something which can be observed - scientifically - at the cellular level, just as everywhere else!

cheers,

~Andrew

[Leafblade]

Originally Posted by fourgrtkidos

I don't believe this is true. I think we accept this idea as fact because of Darwanistic Evolutionary Theory.

I wasn't thinking of evolution. The basis for my throught is that millions of sperm race through the body to fertilize an egg. Plants race for sunlight. Even the most docile of animals do compete with others of their own species or others for survival. My basis is simple observation, and doesn't involve mechanisms each species gains to try to beat the other.

[Leafblade]

Originally Posted by AndrewX

With respect to your post on conflict, Leafblade, I would disagree, and suggest that you have actually begged a very important question. That question is - What is our highest Purpose here, on Planet Earth, as Humanity ... and how do we move toward that Purpose?

I do not argue that conflict doesn't exist, or even that it exists for a Purpose! But I do not agree that Humanity is no different than the mineral, vegetable and animal kingdoms in this respect. The Ageless Wisdom defines Humanity as an essentially Divine being, housed in a living, animal body (which includes not just the flesh, but also our emotional-passionate nature, and our lower [personal] mind).



The question we should ask, then, is how does our Human Purpose differ from that of the animals, and lower Kingdoms? And we can think of this in terms of the Seven Rays, which condition all life upon planet Earth (and in Cosmos). As presented by Alice Bailey, and by other esoteric authors, these Rays are:

1st ray of Power, Will or Purpose

2nd ray of Love-Wisdom

3rd ray of Active, Creative Intelligence

4th ray of Harmony through Conflict, or Beauty or Art

5th ray of Concrete Science or Knowledge

6th ray of Abstract Idealism or Devotion

7th ray of Ceremonial Order or Magic or Ritual or Organisation

Of particular note is the idea that Humanity is a 4th Ray entity (also strongly influenced by the 5th Ray, which corresponds to concrete, or lower mind).

What this means, is that all of the CONFLICT which we undergo - and which Humanity will continue to undergo for quite some time, on various levels - HAS A PURPOSE. In simple terms, it is part of God's Plan for helping us, and allowing us (through our own `working out' of that Plan), to develop toward our highest potential.

Animals, and the lesser Kingdoms, are also developing toward a Purpose, yet they are not gifted with mind in the same way that Humanity is, thus they do not develop by making Concious CHOICES. And choice exists where even a simple twofold possiblity between a high road and a low road, presenting tension, or CONFLICT. Even where we do not yet fully understand the nature of that choice, or realize the possible consequences, we are here to LEARN, which can only take place - in some situations - through this `Free Will' (or power-to-choose).

Our real progress, along with the fully conscious, intentional exercising of this power of choice, takes place when we align our will with a Greater Will, the Good of the Whole (aka Divine Will, God's Will, or Spiritual Will). There are many steps, or stages, in this realization, moving from beyond the wants and needs of the separate, isolated self, to the needs of others, to the Good of the Group, and then to increasingly greater Groups - eventually thinking in terms of Wholes (which seems a paradoxical term in the plural, although this is not the case).

Our best hope for Peace on Earth ... is Humanity. This may seem to be a Humanistic statement, or a secular one, but it is not. God, or Divine beings, cannot work to advance the Divine Plan, when that plan involves and REQUIRES Human Cooperation ... if we, as Humanity, do not learn and agree to cooperate - both with Them, and with each other!

Students of the Ageless Wisdom, and spiritually-minded people worldwide of every religion and background, increasingly recognize that it is not a matter of `waiting on God' to finally bring about the Peace on Earth which so many people desperately desire. Instead, it is essentially a matter of assembling a quorum of competent leaders, in every nation and government, as also of assuring that we have the right type of leadership working from within the world's religions, economic organizations, and steering the progress of scientific research, academic progress, etc. It might even be said that if we can just bring about the right type of education, focusing on spiritual values (of importance to ALL of Humanity - every single member), then the rest would take care of itself!



I am reminded of the bumper-sticker which expresses much of this in the phrase, `Think Globally, Act Locally,' as also the expression, `Peace begins with Me,' or `Let Peace begin with me.' There is a mantram, perhaps used by some esotericists, which makes direct invocation to a Cosmic Avatar, the Spirit of Peace, this Spirit being one of three Cosmic Entities forming a Triangle supporting the Christ at this time (the other two are the Buddha, and the Avatar of Synthesis). The 1st Stanza of the ancient mantram, the Great Invocation, goes thus:

Let the Forces of Light bring illumination to mankind.

Let the Spirit of Peace be spread abroad.

May men of goodwill everywhere meet in a spirit of cooperation.

May forgiveness on the part of all men be the keynote at this time.

Let power attend the efforts of the Great Ones.

So let it be, and help us to do our part.

There is so much that we can do, both on a small, individual scale, and in connection with the groups of which we form a part - family, social, spiritual and subjective. We can ponder the first few lines of the Dhammapada, which underscore the power of human thought, and remember especially the importance of the energy of Goodwill ...

1. All that we are is the result of what we have thought: it is founded on our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts. If a man speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him, as the wheel follows the foot of the ox that draws the carriage.
2. All that we are is the result of what we have thought: it is founded on our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts. If a man speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that never leaves him.

Think Peace!

So much to read and I'm having a problem cutting out one thing to talk about. Forgive me if it takes a lot of time for me to get back to you on this and that my responses are usually very short. I don't like speaking too much, even through text.

Perhaps the best hope for the earth is humanity. After all, we have caused many problems that have thrown ecosystems out of balance. At least those who refuse to live in harmony, even with their own environment have.

We may be capable of higher thought processes, but it doesn't mean that we can completely purge one thing that has plagued the species even in the wake of many prophets spreading messages of harmony. The desire for power.

You can never get the full cooperation of our race to do something for it's fellow man. Though history, even people who did share common beliefs sometimes fought wars with each other. We are now connected with many nations around the world, not just neighbors. Sadly, I think the world would be in a doomsday scenario before we could hope to see complete unity.

[17th Angel]

Best hope for peace on Earth? lol, that is so easy.... Eradication of a vile group of animals called humanity..

[LeoSalinas22]

amen, 17th, misanthropy is the key!

[Leafblade]

Then there will be another species taking our place in a few million years, maybe a little sooner.

[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by LeoSalinas22

amen, 17th, misanthropy is the key!

lol Well, we on the whole are a hateful rabble of masters of destruction ;\

Originally Posted by Leafblade

Then there will be another species taking our place in a few million years, maybe a little sooner.

The spirit fox people?! *dun dun dun*

[Neemai]

As long as people/nations are thinking in terms of "I, me and mine" (personally and nationally) it's hard to envisage a peaceful future. But then what is there that could bind the world population together, failing a global disaster?

Is it a question of education, or of a change of national political agendas?

I can't help but think that a lot of the problems with poverty and starvation around the world could be solved if they became the priority, instead of so much investment in warfare and weapons technologies. But realistically, without a real sense of global familiy, how would countries trust each other enough to work like this? Maybe it's too idealistic?

Om Shanti,

.... Neemai

[LeoSalinas22]

that is just the point. our own hand can't save us. what makes us think that we can save ourselves? we have had countless opportunities to save ourselves and we have squandered them all. eventually opportunities will just run out and when they do, it will be too late for us to turn back. we are just too selfish for our own good...

[LeoSalinas22]

17th,

lol Well, we on the whole are a hateful rabble of masters of destruction ;\

this reminds me of a little song called... wait for it...*james hetfield screams* sad but true!

[Snoopy]

Originally Posted by Neemai

As long as people/nations are thinking in terms of "I, me and mine" (personally and nationally) it's hard to envisage a peaceful future.

This indeed is the kernal of the problem, the delusion of separateness.

s.

[Leafblade]

Originally Posted by 17th Angel

The spirit fox people?! *dun dun dun*

Very funny devil boy.

[Leafblade]

Originally Posted by Neemai

As long as people/nations are thinking in terms of "I, me and mine" (personally and nationally) it's hard to envisage a peaceful future. But then what is there that could bind the world population together, failing a global disaster?

Is it a question of education, or of a change of national political agendas?

I can't help but think that a lot of the problems with poverty and starvation around the world could be solved if they became the priority, instead of so much investment in warfare and weapons technologies. But realistically, without a real sense of global familiy, how would countries trust each other enough to work like this? Maybe it's too idealistic?

Om Shanti,

.... Neemai

Well, I'm thinking that with all the food we try to give to some of the less fortuinate countires, the real obstical is keeping it from falling into the hands of greedy politicians or self serving rebels.

[fourgrtkidos]

Originally Posted by 17th Angel

Best hope for peace on Earth? lol, that is so easy.... Eradication of a vile group of animals called humanity..

Geesh, you are such a serious person.

However, isn't this happening realatively quickly- Don't scientists give 120 years at best if Global warning..... 5,000 as the Y genome continues to break down?
The biosytem Earth will right itself. Either we find a way to live in peace and harmony or we will be kicked out of the system........

[17th Angel]

Originally Posted by fourgrtkidos

Geesh, you are such a serious person.

However, isn't this happening realatively quickly- Don't scientists give 120 years at best if Global warning..... 5,000 as the Y genome continues to break down?
The biosytem Earth will right itself. Either we find a way to live in peace and harmony or we will be kicked out of the system........

I am not really a serious person lol... Most of the time... I just kinda.... loathe humans lol..... Regarding global wamring and so on I have no idea I know nothing about it apart from what global warming means.... See I am not that serious of a person... But, yes I guess it is a concept showing what humanity can do.... Aren't we just so special? And we destroy this our home... And many other creatures home..... And a few of us think we are some kind of special sun shining out our arse divine being made by a magical creator{s}..... If there was a god{s} it would favour all other animals.. Not us... We are more of a virus than race lol Compare us to the cancer virus.... See any simularities?


WHAT IF!! we are micro small and this "earth" is just a cell on some other animals brain or lung or heart... And we are simply a virus/infection it has sadly caught? And we think we are so bigger than we truly are? WO0O0O And nature is the animals antibodies... slowly killing us off... (natural disasters and so on.....) But if we win..... We shall kill this animal eating it from the inside out.

Originally Posted by Leafblade

Very funny devil boy.

yea yea..... Foxy... Keeeeeeep talking.....