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03-14-2012, 08:19 PM
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What is the essence of all religions?
What is the essence of all religions?
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03-14-2012, 09:02 PM
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IAMTHATIAMNOT
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Re: What is the essence of all religions?
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What is the essence of all religions?
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I would say Belief
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03-14-2012, 09:08 PM
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Quaker-in-the-Making
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Re: What is the essence of all religions?
Non-empirical experience.
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03-14-2012, 09:56 PM
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Hare Krishna Devotee
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Re: What is the essence of all religions?
There are two schools of philosophy in the Vedas of India, as the the "Goal of Liberation":
Two Schools of thought on the "Goal of Liberation" aka "Salvation" aka "Immortality" aka "Emancipation":
I) Nirvana - merge into the primevial source, thus, desolving all self & ego being.
II) Prema Bhakti - Loving devotional interpersonal audience with God.
NOTE: Aside from these two, the defacto path remaining that is taken by all 'living entities' is:
to perform ones' own alloted dharma (vocational duties) with the explicit purpose of gaining frutive results (karma) for gratification ---of all sorts, on all sorts of stratum of existence(s) throughout time and history ---in the name of self-advancement and self-preservation and self-angrandisement. This is repeated birth after birth. The repetition of seeking pleasure never ceases albeit with the accompanying 'ups & down' cycles of seasonal bounties and famines.
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03-14-2012, 11:28 PM
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Nimitta Matra
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Re: What is the essence of all religions?
I would say that an attempt to convey the experience of oneness is the essence of all religions...
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03-15-2012, 04:42 PM
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IAMTHATIAMNOT
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Re: What is the essence of all religions?
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I would say that an attempt to convey the experience of oneness is the essence of all religions...
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IS this your Oneness?
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In theology, the doctrine of divine simplicity says that God is without parts. The general idea of divine simplicity can be stated in this way: the being of God is identical to the "attributes" of God. In other words, such characteristics as omnipresence, goodness, truth, eternity, etc. are identical to God's being, not qualities that make up that being, nor abstract entities inhering in God as in a substance. Varieties of the doctrine may be found in Jewish, Christian, and Muslim philosophical theologians, especially during the heyday of scholasticism, though the doctrine's origins may be traced back to ancient Greek thought.
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03-15-2012, 05:25 PM
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Re: What is the essence of all religions?
Yep. Judaic, Christian or Islam scholasticism (or neo-scholasticism) aways seem to circle back to Aristotle.
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03-15-2012, 07:06 PM
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Hare Krishna Devotee
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Re: What is the essence of all religions?
What is the essence of all religions?
A] Transcendental Goals: Nirvana Enlightenment; or, Kingdom of God
b] Material Goals: economic coherence and success.
c] Terrestrial & Celestial Goals: achieve a higher status among the re-born soul cycle of samsara.
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03-15-2012, 07:15 PM
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Re: What is the essence of all religions?
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What is the essence of all religions?
A] Transcendental Goals: Nirvana Enlightenment; or, Kingdom of God
b] Material Goals: economic coherence and success.
c] Terrestrial & Celestial Goals: achieve a higher status among the re-born soul cycle of samsara.
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I would say simply .....love.
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03-15-2012, 07:22 PM
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Re: What is the essence of all religions?
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I would say simply .....love.
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A secluded planet in space with a Billion humans living on it, each human living for short span of time.
Also, a census count of all the other living immates of the planet earth other than humans would show that there are trillons to the trillionenth power of numbers of living entities on planet earth ---are these lining beings excercisng Love left & right and every which way? Or is it a big fish eats little fish world?
Where is the boundries & even the outline or even the hint at "Loving Exchanges" in remote barren place on earth that take up 99% of the land and water space on earth?:
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03-15-2012, 07:25 PM
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Re: What is the essence of all religions?
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A secluded planet in space with a Billion humans living on it, each human living for short span of time.
Also, a census count of all the other living immates of the planet earth other than humans would show that there are trillons to the trillionenth power of numbers of living entities on planet earth ---are these lining beings excercisng Love left & right and every which way? Or is it a big fish eats little fish world?
Where is the boundries & even the outline or even the hint at "Loving Exchanges" in remote barren place on earth that take up 99% of the land and water space on earth?:
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Love is the center of what we all are and the navel of the world. When we realize this wars will stop and we will progress.
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03-15-2012, 07:30 PM
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Re: What is the essence of all religions?
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Love is the center of what we all are and the navel of the world. When we realize this wars will stop and we will progress.
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Mariah Carey & Whitney Houston When You Believe - YouTube
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03-15-2012, 07:53 PM
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Nimitta Matra
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Re: What is the essence of all religions?
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Originally Posted by Etu Malku
IS this your Oneness?
Wiki -
In theology, the doctrine of divine simplicity says that God is without parts. The general idea of divine simplicity can be stated in this way: the being of God is identical to the "attributes" of God. In other words, such characteristics as omnipresence, goodness, truth, eternity, etc. are identical to God's being, not qualities that make up that being, nor abstract entities inhering in God as in a substance. Varieties of the doctrine may be found in Jewish, Christian, and Muslim philosophical theologians, especially during the heyday of scholasticism, though the doctrine's origins may be traced back to ancient Greek thought.
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Theology is never related to oneness, it is the minds foolish attempt to understand something beyond itself. The real problem with religion today is that too many idiotic views seem perfectly logical, this has all stemmed from theology.
Oneness is an experience, it is what all scriptures point to, yet it cannot be found in any scripture because every scripture utilizes words, thus involve the mind.
Yet, what is the nature of God in each of these?
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03-15-2012, 08:19 PM
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Hare Krishna Devotee
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Re: What is the essence of all religions?
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Originally Posted by Lunitik
Theology is . . . is the minds foolish attempt to understand . . . too many idiotic views . . . Oneness is ... what all scriptures point to, yet it cannot be found in any scripture
... what is the nature of God in each of these?
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1: What you say stems from your own understanding, which is no more true nor less fallible than mine or anyone else's.
2: You don't cite sources, in fact you refute them if they do not coincide with your own understanding.
3: Yet, if one thinks about it, a reasonable person will know that one's own experience is fallible, prone to error and assumption.
So the conclusion of your own argument is there is no reason why anyone should pay attention to your argument, which rests on nothing but your claim to infallibility.
It's the Philosophy of MENTAL SPECULATION & SELF-ANGRANDISEMENT writ large ... a series of diatribes from a real life "Life of Brian" background extra . . . causing everyone to cringe.
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03-15-2012, 09:27 PM
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Re: What is the essence of all religions?
Touche, bhaktajan! You caught the error. The cite was not about theology but about the concept of divine simplicity--two very, very different things.
For instance, a perfect at-one-ment with the Divine is an example of the latter.
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