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06-01-2008, 09:20 PM
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Re: what the bible teaches
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I agree.
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yes its good to keep an open mind to what the bible really teaches  it is for our benefit and it is very goodnews.
And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite; DANIEL 2;44
the heavenly kingdom goverment was set up and established in 1914 inline with bible prophecy and chronology ,and now the one who has been given great aurthority JESUS CHRIST has recieved his kingship in that heavenly kingdom goverment, and now things are moving ahead in this time of the end Daniel 7-13-14
yes true knowledge is now abundant especially since 1914
its good to find out about what the bible REALLY teaches.
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06-02-2008, 01:07 AM
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Re: what the bible teaches
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And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite; DANIEL 2;44
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I personally believe that kingdom is the Baha'i Faith.
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06-02-2008, 03:00 AM
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What was the question?
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Re: what the bible teaches
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I personally believe that kingdom is the Baha'i Faith.
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then you are in the wrong forum...
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06-02-2008, 04:20 AM
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Re: what the bible teaches
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I personally believe that kingdom is the Baha'i Faith.
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lol.....u sure it aint disney? Baha'i = 1 size fits all meaningless bollocks. Thats better than JW tho which is fits nowhere bollocks.
tao
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06-02-2008, 04:25 AM
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Re: what the bible teaches
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Originally Posted by mee
yes its good to keep an open mind to what the bible really teaches  it is for our benefit and it is very goodnews.
And in the days of those kings the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be brought to ruin. And the kingdom itself will not be passed on to any other people. It will crush and put an end to all these kingdoms, and it itself will stand to times indefinite; DANIEL 2;44
the heavenly kingdom goverment was set up and established in 1914 inline with bible prophecy and chronology ,and now the one who has been given great aurthority JESUS CHRIST has recieved his kingship in that heavenly kingdom goverment, and now things are moving ahead in this time of the end Daniel 7-13-14
yes true knowledge is now abundant especially since 1914
its good to find out about what the bible REALLY teaches.
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Here is some "good news" :you are an utterly self deluded fool.....now go and make some use of that if you can.............. I doubt it.........but one lives in hope.....
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06-02-2008, 08:10 AM
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Re: what the bible teaches
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Originally Posted by Tao_Equus
Here is some "good news" :you are an utterly self deluded fool.....now go and make some use of that if you can.............. I doubt it.........but one lives in hope.....
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Oozing with negativity lol..... You know all the answers Tao? In this tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny atom like area in comparison to the universe.... And we feel as if we know more than we truly do.
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Originally Posted by Tao_Equus
lol.....u sure it aint disney? Baha'i = 1 size fits all meaningless bollocks. Thats better than JW tho which is fits nowhere bollocks.
tao
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I wouldn't class it as bollocks..... I think Baha'i is pretty close to where its at.. We are all of the same, we are all one... And the only way is one.... 'This hostility won't stand'  We'll only make it together, and seeing as our fates all seem to be together why not, brightside, be a better place. If we take Jesus for example as he is in Baha'i and JW.... Attempting to follow suit of a person such as Jesus.... Meaning to try and be a better person, which we all can be... That is something that can add value and meaning to life... That is far from bollocks... Baffling I find, why others have this hostility (which it is.) to another trying to improve themself. :\ I dunno it feels like some kind of jealousy or envy.... I don't know, I cant describe it as I don't understand it.
The JW faith doesn't fit? What does that mean? Because from my two years as a JW I found it fitted into the followers lives, they were genuinely happy, after much thought on them since then I conclude they live in almost their own community, they do so much together with friends/family... And along the way they try to better themselves and offer others to join them, let them be... They are not all up in arms because they think your a self deluded fool going on about some bollocks (  )
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06-02-2008, 09:53 AM
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Re: what the bible teaches
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Here is some "good news" :you are an utterly self deluded fool.....now go and make some use of that if you can.............. I doubt it.........but one lives in hope.....
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Jesus Christ was ridiculed—laughed at, sneered at, made fun of, treated insolently, and even spit upon. (Mark 5:40; Luke 16:14; 18:32) Early Christians were also objects of mockery. (Acts 2:13; 17:32) Modern-day servants of Jehovah face similar abuse.
so dont worry we are used to it.
it is after all what we are used to. we expect it.
if we were not riddiculed some thing would be wrong, because Jesus said if they have done it to me (jesus) they would also do it to his followers .
it comes with the job .
Emphasizing the importance of keeping in expectation of Jehovah’s day, Jesus warned that even some of his followers would lose their sense of urgency.
He foretold about them: "If ever that evil slave should say in his heart, ‘My master is delaying,’ and should start to beat his fellow slaves and should eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards, the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, and will punish him with the greatest severity." (Matthew 24:48-51)
In contrast, the faithful and discreet slave class loyally keeps its sense of urgency. The slave class has kept on the watch and proved itself ready. Jesus has appointed it "over all his belongings" here on the earth.—Matthew 24:42-47.
yes there are many in opposition out there ,but mee likes to remain faithful to the God of the bible , and his reigning king Jesus christ it is the ONLY way to salvation .
and it is very good thats what the bible teaches
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06-02-2008, 10:10 AM
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Re: what the bible teaches
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Here is some "good news" :you are an utterly self deluded fool.....now go and make some use of that if you can.............. I doubt it.........but one lives in hope.....
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mee likes GOODNEWS it is better
Jesus Is King
Back in the first century, Jesus fulfilled many of God’s purposes for him, but he was not then enthroned as King of God’s Kingdom.
that did not happen until 1914.
As the fulfillment of prophecy clearly shows, in that year God’s Kingdom was established in the heavens. (Revelation 12:10, 12)
Although there was very bad news in 1914—outbreak of World War I—the birth of God’s Kingdom was the best of news.
That was why Jesus prophesied for our day: "This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations."—Matthew 24:14.
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06-02-2008, 10:15 AM
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See that is as far as I am willing to walk with ya lol... Peace and Love and good deeds and that is fantastic... But when we get to things such as "Jesus' kingdom was formed in WWI..." That is where I have to stop :P
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06-02-2008, 10:23 AM
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Re: what the bible teaches
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See that is as far as I am willing to walk with ya lol... Peace and Love and good deeds and that is fantastic... But when we get to things such as "Jesus' kingdom was formed in WWI..." That is where I have to stop :P
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why stop there it is the best bit  and it is all bible based good stuff, we are now well along since 1914 and things are moving along nicely regarding true knowledge that is being revealed in these last days .
and the great day of Jehovah is very near and there is a hurrying of it very much.
kiss the son its the only way to salvation psalm 2; 12
Happy are all those taking refuge in him.
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06-02-2008, 10:33 AM
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Because in side me, deeds and ways of religions are good and I try to be a better man, but there is much I feel we don't know and we are all on the right lines to an extent...
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06-02-2008, 10:34 AM
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Re: what the bible teaches
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See that is as far as I am willing to walk with ya lol... Peace and Love and good deeds and that is fantastic... But when we get to things such as "Jesus' kingdom was formed in WWI..." That is where I have to stop :P
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the end of the Gentile Times in 1914 C.E. was to be marked by the revival, the rebirth, of God’s kingdom in the hands of his anointed one or Messiah, Christ.
It was the time marked for the coming of the Anointed One with the
"legal right" to the crown and the time for Jehovah God to give it to him.
This Messianic kingdom of God would then be a divine government for the Gentile nations to reckon with henceforth.
Never would they be able to trample on it victoriously, even though they kept up their selfish endeavors to hold on to the sovereignty of all parts of the earth.
Why so?
It was because the Messianic kingdom of God that was due to be born in 1914 is a heavenly government.
It is beyond the reach of the Gentile governments and their spaceships and rockets.
The earthly Jerusalem has nothing to do with it. Since Jesus Christ was put to death on Calvary outside the walls of Jerusalem in the year 33 C.E., that city has no connection with God’s Messianic kingdom.
but now in these times Jehovah has given his son (JESUS)the one with the legal right to the kingship great aurthority, and Jesus is directing a great preaching work of making known the GOODNEWS OF THE KINGDOM
MATTHEW 24;14 its all happening in this time of the end , the kings of the earth have had their day Daniel 2;44
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06-02-2008, 10:51 AM
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Re: what the bible teaches
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but there is much I feel we don't know
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and there is much we do know about the bible and the things foretold , and acting on that true knowledge is the way to go
Jehovah, Having patiently permitted the Gentile domination of mankind for 2,520 years since 607 B.C.E., has in 1914 enthroned his Son, the Messianic Heir of King David, and turned over to this One with the "legal right" the domination of all the earth.
This Messianic King, ruling in the "heavenly Jerusalem," will bring to ruin all the Gentiles who are ruining the earth, but his own God-given kingdom will never be brought to ruin.
kiss the son , welcome Jesus as a reigning king , and be disciplined and corrected by him .
mee likes to wave my symbolic palm branch to welcome Jesus as a reigning king revelation 7;9-10
its the only way to get through the great tribulation revelation 7;14
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06-02-2008, 10:55 AM
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Re: what the bible teaches
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and there is much we do know about the bible and the things foretold , and acting on that true knowledge is the way to go 
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Yeah like I said though... The teachings of the bible are good yes I agree with all that... Alas there is no way to determine if stories told are true... I feel there is a designer, but no book has full knowledge of it. All the other topics about a creator I would answer "I don't know."
So example, is what the bible teaches 100% gospel? "I don't know." Is there a hell and heaven? "I don't know." Are there ghosts, spirits, demons and what not... "I don't know..." Did jesus make a kingdom in WWI? "I don't know..." We think we know too much ;\ When I get to topics where I am under the statement of 'I don't know.' I will look into them but try and not take a side... lol... (everyones a winner!) Like yeah sure this planet is a miracle.... Life is a miracle... Awesome... But is this all down to a god which is symbolised as a he and he is called Jehovah? When YHWH isn't really a name... It's a description... Which I think is better than giving it a name lol. :\
So I would say it wouldn't be accurate, to say we know the truth 100% that this is the only god... Or that this is the truth 100% there is no god....
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06-02-2008, 11:37 AM
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Re: what the bible teaches
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Yeah like I said though... The teachings of the bible are good yes I agree with all that... Alas there is no way to determine if stories told are true... I feel there is a designer, but no book has full knowledge of it. All the other topics about a creator I would answer "I don't know."
So example, is what the bible teaches 100% gospel? "I don't know." Is there a hell and heaven? "I don't know." Are there ghosts, spirits, demons and what not... "I don't know..." Did jesus make a kingdom in WWI? "I don't know..." We think we know too much ;\ When I get to topics where I am under the statement of 'I don't know.' I will look into them but try and not take a side... lol... (everyones a winner!) Like yeah sure this planet is a miracle.... Life is a miracle... Awesome... But is this all down to a god which is symbolised as a he and he is called Jehovah? When YHWH isn't really a name... It's a description... Which I think is better than giving it a name lol. :\
So I would say it wouldn't be accurate, to say we know the truth 100% that this is the only god... Or that this is the truth 100% there is no god....
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there was a time when mee used to say .......i dont know..... but after taking in accurate knowledge of the bible i can now say i do know that Gods heavenly kingdom goverment will bring the earth back to paradise conditions . and i do know that Gods original purpose for the earth will be fullfilled. and i do know that a GREAT CROWD from all nations will get through the great tribulation and go on to inherit that paradise earth revelation 7;14 matthew 5;5
but i also know that there is great opposition to Gods purpose for the earth.
but regardless of the opposition ,Gods words in the bible will come to be .
And as JEHOVAHS name has great meaning in that name , his name means ,HE CAUSES TO BECOME what ever he fortells will come to be .
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