When is it appropriate to share your religious faith with others? - Page 19

bob x · 06-09-2008, 11:32 PM

You see? It's all about pigeons, sheeps, and snakes. I don't like any of them.

path_of_one · 06-09-2008, 11:42 PM

I think they are all cute.

mee · 06-09-2008, 11:46 PM

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You see? It's all about pigeons, sheeps, and snakes. I don't like any of them.

the good thing about pigeons is that they know where they are going ,and they always know the way home .

and they are very good to carry a message .
Training is now being given to pigeons for a search-and-rescue operation .

matthew 28;19-20 matthew 24;14

Dawud · 06-10-2008, 01:26 AM

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the good thing about pigeons is that they know where they are going ,and they always know the way home .

and they are very good to carry a message .
Training is now being given to pigeons for a search-and-rescue operation .

matthew 28;19-20 matthew 24;14

I saw a pigeon on the way home today. Seriously.

China Cat Sunflower · 06-10-2008, 02:19 AM

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CCS, Would the turtle snapping their neck into the shell... be like the one knocking on someone else's door, or like the one making rules of who can knock on their own door? I imagine the turtle with a sign on the shell that says something like, "NO Solicitors!"

Dude,

1. Do you honestly enjoy being accosted by proselytizers?

2. Is it your view that view that most people enjoy being accosted by proselytizers?

The turtle analogy was clumsy, and that post was entirely off topic.

Chris

cyberpi · 06-10-2008, 05:03 AM

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1. Do you honestly enjoy being accosted by proselytizers?

YES. Especially by God... proselytize me every single day.

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2. Is it your view that view that most people enjoy being accosted by proselytizers?

I have no idea. But I think every child is accosted by the values thrust upon them by their peers, parents, and society.

China Cat Sunflower · 06-10-2008, 05:52 AM

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1. Do you honestly enjoy being accosted by proselytizers?

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YES. Especially by God... proselytize me every single day.

Thanks for the straight answer!

I absolutely despise proselytizers and all other cold callers. As far as I'm concerned they are human parasites.

Chris

China Cat Sunflower · 06-10-2008, 06:20 AM

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...I think every child is accosted by the values thrust upon them by their peers, parents, and society.

I agree with this completely. As a parent I have the responsibility of policing what comes into my home. There's a whole world of coercive forces banging down the doors and windows of my children's minds, trying to get in and sell them something. Religion, sex, politics, advertising out the yang...you name it. And on top of that I have people who won't respect my privacy just dropping by my door, or calling me to run their sales pitch on me.

The only ones who get anything from me are the Girl Scouts and the trick or treaters. The Girl Scouts sell cookies. They sell something yummy that I actually want, that I can have right now. And they don't come to the door. That's key. Trick or treating is community activity, and I really don't want to get egged, or my house TP'ed like I used to do to misers when I was a lad.

Chris

seattlegal · 06-10-2008, 07:04 AM

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I have to laugh about this thread- it has so degenerated into several streams of conversation only marginally (or not at all) related to the OP... It's a fascinating look into how humans think- talk about tangents!

Speaking of tangents, if you apply the premise of punctuated equilibrium sociologically and ideologically, it would imply that it is necessary for our entire population to get together every once in a while and 'mix-it-up,' so to speak, otherwise we might become different ideological species, and risk losing our cohesive humanity, so to speak.

That is why it is necessary to share our beliefs.
{How's that for relating it back to topic?}

mee · 06-10-2008, 10:15 AM

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I saw a pigeon on the way home today. Seriously.

there is a GREAT CROWD in all nations REVELATION 7;9-10 . and they all have the same homing in them and it is very GOODNEWS MATTHEW 24;14

Or should i say flock JOHN 10;16

mee · 06-10-2008, 10:24 AM

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I agree with this completely. As a parent I have the responsibility of policing what comes into my home. There's a whole world of coercive forces banging down the doors and windows of my children's minds, trying to get in and sell them something. Religion, sex, politics, advertising out the yang...you name it. And on top of that I have people who won't respect my privacy just dropping by my door, or calling me to run their sales pitch on me.

The only ones who get anything from me are the Girl Scouts and the trick or treaters. The Girl Scouts sell cookies. They sell something yummy that I actually want, that I can have right now. And they don't come to the door. That's key. Trick or treating is community activity, and I really don't want to get egged, or my house TP'ed like I used to do to misers when I was a lad.

Chris

MEE liked it when someone came to my door bringing GOODNEWS

and MEE likes to join the GREAT CROWD who have responded to that GOODNEWS revelation 7;9-10 .

it leads on to getting through the GREAT TRIBULATION REVELATION 7;14

And i have always got my symbolic palm branch in my hand waving it around for all to see.

its good to KISS THE SON and welcome him as Gods reigning king psalm 2;12

cyberpi · 06-10-2008, 04:53 PM

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I absolutely despise proselytizers and all other cold callers.

A proselytizer is not necessarily a cold caller. Within the family there is plenty of proselytizing.

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I agree with this completely. As a parent I have the responsibility of policing what comes into my home. There's a whole world of coercive forces banging down the doors and windows of my children's minds, trying to get in and sell them something.

How on Earth will your children ever survive without you?

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And on top of that I have people who won't respect my privacy just dropping by my door, or calling me to run their sales pitch on me.

My privacy is not lost by answering the door, or by opening my ears, or by opening my eyes, or by opening my mind to someone else's beliefs. My privacy is lost as I open my mouth.

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The only ones who get anything from me are the Girl Scouts and the trick or treaters.

Nothing for the wife and kids.

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They sell something yummy that I actually want, that I can have right now.

So you see wisdom in favoring short term desires over long term gains.

Tao_Equus · 06-10-2008, 05:08 PM

Cyberpi,

Buddy sometimes you are so anal that I find it really difficult to see how you can go through life thinking everything smells of roses. lol, you can be funny tho

cyberpi · 06-10-2008, 06:38 PM

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Buddy sometimes you are so anal that I find it really difficult to see how you can go through life thinking everything smells of roses. lol, you can be funny tho

I often do analyze. If everything smelled the same then I would not have the ability to smell it. Also if I prevent those who would bring me something new to smell, then I won't smell anything but my own... roses.

Dondi · 06-10-2008, 09:56 PM

I give credit to cyperpi, at least he's being open. He obviously thrives on these kinds of encounters.

Sometimes I'm in the mood to listen. I don't often get called on in my neighborhood, but will occasionally have a JW or Mormon or someone knock on my door. And I sometimes listen to their spiel, if not too terribly busy or in the mood. And I respect their message. But I do like it to be an exchange of ideas. Keep in mind that in many cases these people have been indoctrinated into their belief system for a long time, even grown up with it. And right or wrong, that is all they know. So you might be doing them a favor if you express and share your views to them as well, it could open up their eyes.

I remember talking to some Mormons, a couple of teen boys gearing up for the missions field, as required. And they gave me their experience about how they had the burning bosom thing and know the book of Mormon as the truth. And I could have easily gotten into a debate about it, but instead, I presented them with the same gospel message that I give whenever I go door knocking. I was quite surprised when they said they never heard that before. So it was quite an educational experience on their part. That was far more satisfying to me than had I decided to debate.