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05-21-2008, 07:24 AM
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Re: When is it appropriate to share your religious faith with others?
So no one keeps track of who goes door to door... ?
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05-21-2008, 08:44 AM
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Re: When is it appropriate to share your religious faith with others?
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So no one keeps track of who goes door to door... ?
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the whole purpose of why the christian congregation was set up in the first century is about getting the Goodnews preached ,and as Jehovahs witnesses stick very closely to the bible , everything is inline with how the first century christian congregation worked .
its not about keeping track of who goes door to door, but it is about keeping track of getting the goodnews preached on a worldwide scale.
And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come. matthew 24;14
matthew 28;19-20
Also, in all the nations the good news has to be preached first. mark13;10
for those who choose to be a part of the GREAT CROWD being gathered in this time of the end , and choosing to be united in purpose with Jehovah and his son Jesus christ , they willingly spread the GOODNEWS.
MEE LIKES TO MAKE KNOWN GOODNEWS
EARLY Christians did not simply think of theirs as just another religion, one they personally happened to prefer.
Not at all! They firmly believed that they possessed the truth about Jehovah God and his purposes, and that others needed this knowledge for salvation. (John 17:3)
Their conviction moved them to vigorous preaching activity. The inspired Bible record says: "Every day in the temple and from house to house they continued without letup teaching and declaring the good news about the Christ, Jesus." (Acts 5:42)
and it was very good, and it still is very good
Jesus told his disciples to call right at the homes of the people with this vital message.
He even explained to them how to greet the household and present the Kingdom message.
Later, he sent out seventy trained disciples with similar instructions. (Matt. 10:5-7, 11-14; Luke 10:1-11) Even after his death and resurrection, Jesus appeared to his followers to urge them to carry on the preaching.
thats what the true christian congregation is all about
Really, the right view is that there is not a more important work on earth that a person could do.
Kingdom preaching is the work Jehovah God, man’s Creator, has commanded to be done. For this reason Jehovah’s witnesses are devoted to this activity
And like the early Christians, they are prepared to train and assist others to preach the Kingdom message. Their congregation meetings are designed for this very purpose.
as for the previous post that said old people were told off for not going out , that is just lies , and people get to believe silly lies .
an unnamed widow in the bible was highly commended by Jesus because she contributed all of what she had to the temple.—Mr 12:41-44.
and that would apply with regard to the preaching of the goodnews.
that older person may only be able to speak about the goodnews to their nurses and carers, but they have given all they can and it is the best they can give and it is VERY GOOD I look at it this way ,those older ones who are giving all they can in a spiritual way were more than likely the ones that Jehovah and Jesus used to get the GOODNEWS preached in their younger days , and that is why MEE is now a part of the GREAT CROWD revelation 7;9-10 ,because those older ones in their younger days did not shrink back from doing what is right .
and now MEE can go out on the door to door work and help those older ones to get the work done . 
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05-21-2008, 03:34 PM
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Re: When is it appropriate to share your religious faith with others?
Mee wrote:
"...its not about keeping track of who goes door to door, but it is about keeping track of getting the goodnews preached.."
So how do you do that? "keeping track" that is?
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05-21-2008, 03:53 PM
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Re: When is it appropriate to share your religious faith with others?
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Originally Posted by arthra
Mee wrote:
"...its not about keeping track of who goes door to door, but it is about keeping track of getting the goodnews preached.."
So how do you do that? "keeping track" that is?
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the same as the early christian Congregation  there are some really good road maps so no one can say that they have never been called on . The fact that others on this forum are talking about how they have been called on proves the preaching is being done .
And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come. MATTHEW 24;14
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05-22-2008, 04:54 PM
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Re: When is it appropriate to share your religious faith with others?
Mee,
I had the feeling there's more than you are sharing here..so went to a fairly neutral site called wikipedia that is usually pretty accurate and found this information:
"All members (known as "publishers") who are healthy enough are strongly encouraged to go from door to door, participating in this activity to the extent that their circumstances allow, every week if at all possible. Even children are encouraged to participate, accompanied by their parents. A publisher who fails to participate for a month is known as an "irregular publisher"; publishers who have not compiled and turned in a field service report for six consecutive months are known as "inactive publishers". Witnesses who can spend at least 840 hours of witnessing during a year (an average of 70 hours per month) can apply for the status of "regular pioneers", or full time evangelizers. [211] Witnesses who wish to spend 50 hours in a month can apply to be an "auxiliary pioneer" and can serve in this capacity either a month at a time or consecutively."
Here is the source of the article:
Beliefs and practices of Jehovah's Witnesses - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Claiming that this was a practise of early Christain congregations is probably "stretching it".
- Art
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05-22-2008, 06:21 PM
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Re: When is it appropriate to share your religious faith with others?
Art,
I am dying to know your reaction to all of this. Do you think their door-to-door proselytizing is appropriate?
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05-22-2008, 06:48 PM
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Re: When is it appropriate to share your religious faith with others?
Proselytizing to me implies exerting some sort of pressure or maybe coercion or incentive and I feel that is definitely inappropriate. People who say offer inducements are also I feel crossing the line.
Some years ago as I mentioned earlier I had a lady who was in counseling who was very unhappy with her situation and complained about having to go door to door so many hours a week or month, etc. and having pressures on her from her church so that's why I was pursueing this line of inquery..
- Art
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05-23-2008, 09:17 AM
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Re: When is it appropriate to share your religious faith with others?
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Originally Posted by arthra
Mee wrote:
"...its not about keeping track of who goes door to door, but it is about keeping track of getting the goodnews preached.."
So how do you do that? "keeping track" that is?
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if you were part of the christian congregation you would not need to ask you would know
its good that Jehovah is organized in all sorts of ways , and that includes the christian congregations.
just as the early followers of christ reported back to Jesus after going on the preaching work ,so do the followers of christ today .  and it is very good  Jesus is the head of the christian congregation and things are working very well. just how he wants it .
taste and see that Jehovah is good
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05-23-2008, 09:33 AM
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Re: When is it appropriate to share your religious faith with others?
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Originally Posted by arthra
Mee,
I had the feeling there's more than you are sharing here..so went to a fairly neutral site called wikipedia that is usually pretty accurate and found this information:
"All members (known as "publishers") who are healthy enough are strongly encouraged to go from door to door, participating in this activity to the extent that their circumstances allow, every week if at all possible. Even children are encouraged to participate, accompanied by their parents. A publisher who fails to participate for a month is known as an "irregular publisher"; publishers who have not compiled and turned in a field service report for six consecutive months are known as "inactive publishers". Witnesses who can spend at least 840 hours of witnessing during a year (an average of 70 hours per month) can apply for the status of "regular pioneers", or full time evangelizers. [211] Witnesses who wish to spend 50 hours in a month can apply to be an "auxiliary pioneer" and can serve in this capacity either a month at a time or consecutively."
Here is the source of the article:
Beliefs and practices of Jehovah's Witnesses - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Claiming that this was a practise of early Christain congregations is probably "stretching it".
- Art 
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yes its very good that the christian congregation is doing just what Jesus asked matthew 28;19-20. thats what it is all about .
some do more than others, some are willing to do lots of preaching ,others do what they can .
and as the article mentioned ,if they dont report back they would be regarded as inactive. good to get it right .
i like being a part of Jehovah Gods purpose ,and i like being a part of the GREAT CROWD who are all inline with the head of the christian congregation revelation 7;9-10 .....  unity indeed and it is very good
matthew 24;14.
but for mee and others of the great crowd we love to informally witness about the kingdom and the wonderful promises in the bible , thats why mee also in all walks of my life point to the kingdom as the only hope . we like to bring the promises of God in the bible to the fore , thats because it is very good . matthew 6;9-10.
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05-23-2008, 09:41 AM
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Re: When is it appropriate to share your religious faith with others?
When Bible writers refer to Christians as slaves of God, they are not referring to abject servitude based on coercion. (Romans 12:11; Colossians 3:24) What is meant is willing subjection based on deep, heartfelt love for God and his Son, Jesus Christ.—Matthew 22:37; 2 Corinthians 5:14; 1 John 4:10, 11.
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05-28-2008, 11:21 PM
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Re: When is it appropriate to share your religious faith with others?
When is it appropriate to share your religious faith with others?
from my point of vew life is short and the otheres have the right to know my great relligon (ISLAM)as soon as posseble to live the real happiness in this life and in the last life .
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05-28-2008, 11:50 PM
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Re: When is it appropriate to share your religious faith with others?
There needs to be tact, wisdom, and courtesy when teaching religion. If someone is not interested, it's best to leave them to themselves and focus on God. You can pray for people, but not push. If someone is interested, by all means, teach!
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05-28-2008, 11:57 PM
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Re: When is it appropriate to share your religious faith with others?
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There needs to be tact, wisdom, and courtesy when teaching religion. If someone is not interested, it's best to leave them to themselves
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I agree with dawud there, you simply cannot teach a person who wishes not to be taught. That being the most common situation, I'd say not to worry about teaching and just be an example
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05-29-2008, 12:05 AM
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Re: When is it appropriate to share your religious faith with others?
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I agree with dawud there, you simply cannot teach a person who wishes not to be taught. That being the most common situation, I'd say not to worry about teaching and just be an example 
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Being an example is the most effective, I agree. One of the principles of my religion is independent investigation of the truth. We encourage people to seek truth for themselves, and ideally, people will look at more than just their own religion and learn about more than just what their parents believe.
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05-29-2008, 09:48 AM
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Re: When is it appropriate to share your religious faith with others?
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Being an example is the most effective, I agree. One of the principles of my religion is independent investigation of the truth. We encourage people to seek truth for themselves, and ideally, people will look at more than just their own religion and learn about more than just what their parents believe.
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yes that is very good  seeking the true God is what the bible tells us to do .
seek Jehovah, all YOU meek ones of the earth, who have practiced His own judicial decision. Seek righteousness, seek meekness. Probably YOU may be concealed in the day of Jehovah’s anger. ZEPHENIAH 2 ;3
And he will certainly render judgment among the nations and set matters straight respecting many peoples. And they will have to beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, neither will they learn war anymore.
ISAIAH 2;4
Those who are willing to be instructed by the true God and are practicing his decisions will be learning war no more.
and these ones are from all nations of the earth revelation 7;9-10
and they are a GREAT CROWD AND IT IS VERY GOOD 
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