When is it appropriate to share your religious faith with others?

[Dawud]

Originally Posted by mee

and these ones are from all nations of the earth revelation 7;9-10

and they are a GREAT CROWD AND IT IS VERY GOOD

You reminded me of two things, that Baha'i houses of worship are nine-sided, welcoming people of all religions, and that we come from about 235 nations and territories. There is Baha'i literature translated into over 800 languages, and we come from about 2,112 ethnic and tribal groups. Just thought I'd share some things your post reminded me of

[mee]

Originally Posted by Dawud

have they beaten their swords into plough shares , are they known as a people who do not take up arms against his fellow man

just as Jesus taught .

And are they welcoming Jesus as a newly crowded king , (which happened in 1914 inline with bible prophecy and chronology)?and also are they recognizing the most high who is sat on the throne (who is Jehovah) )are they waving their symbolic palm branches to welcome Jesus as recieving his kingship in 1914? are they inline with the most highs purpose for the earth , the God of the bible promises that all false religion will be destroyed by God , that is why the CREAT CROWD spoken of in revelation 7;9-10 have got out of false religion , they are listening to the voice of Jesus and the voice of Jesus tells Gods people to GET OUT OF HER REVELATION 18;4.God said he would take out a people for his name , and they would be his witnesses . are they known as JEHOVAHS WITNESSES? and are they taking in spiritual food from the channel that Jesus is feeding matthew 24;45-47


Jesus set the example for us in witnessing concerning Jehovah’s name and Kingdom.—John 5:30; 6:38; 17:6, 26; 18:37.

Today, a united people is witnessing "to the most distant part of the earth." It is the people spoken of by the apostle Peter—the ‘people for God’s name’—that is bearing witness to Jehovah and his Kingdom by Christ Jesus.


Concerning this, Jesus himself told his disciples: "He that exercises faith in me, that one also will do the works that I do; and he will do works greater than these, because I am going my way to the Father." (John 14:12) From his Father’s right hand in the heavens, the King Jesus Christ now directs the most extensive witness ever conducted here upon earth.


As Jesus prophesied, when "this good news of the kingdom" has been "preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations . . . then the end will come."—Matthew 24:14.


its good to know that the GREAT CROWD spoken of in revelation 7;9-10 are all inline with the most highs purpose .

and they are helping to get the GOODNEWS about Gods kingdom with Jesus as a reigning king made known . matthew 24;14


its all happening in this time of the end ,
and the channel that is acomplishing that is the one channel that Jesus is feeding and it is very good spiritual food .


Jesus only feeds one channel but many from all nations are humbley going to that one channel and because of that they are being fed good spiritual food from Jesus .

[17th Angel]

Mee

Disturbed - Liberate...

Liberate your mind
You ____ , you're
so narrow-minded
So narrow-minded
Liberate your mind
Now ____, will you
liberate your mind
This time

Bold ____
Don't limit your mind
Can;t you see that the pace
Has fallen behind
All the hate in your heart
Will be leaving you blind

So bold ____
Don't you limit your mind
This time

Waiting, for your modern messiah
To take away all the hatred
That darkens the light in your eye
Still awaiting. I..........

"Out of Zion shall come forth a law
And the word of the Lord from Jerusalem
Nation shall not raise
sword against nation
And they shall not learn war anymore
For the mouth, of the Lord, hath, spoken.."

Waiting, for your modern messiah
To take away all the hatred
That darkens the light in your eye
Still awaiting.

[mee]

[quote=Alex P;148164]Mee


All the hate in your heart
Will be leaving you blind

quote]
why do you think that i have hate in my heart,?

being a part of the GREAT CROWD that is being gathered in these last days, means that mee is willing to be taught by the most high . and when a person is taught by the most high they are learning war no more, and Jehovahs witnesses are only into being taught by the most high that is why they listen to the voice of Jesus .JOHN 10;16

[17th Angel]

Nooooooooooo mee!!! Noooo lol

You said....

"have they beaten their swords into plough shares , are they known as a people who do not take up arms against his fellow man"

So I quoted the song by disturbed which quotes...

"Out of Zion shall come forth a law
And the word of the Lord from Jerusalem
Nation shall not raise
sword against nation
And they shall not learn war anymore
For the mouth, of the Lord, hath, spoken.."


Nevermind ;\

[Nick the Pilot]

Alex,

I have been taking a look at how people who think it is OK to bother other people with their religion are actually suffereing from unmet emotional needs. I find the whole thing fascinating.

I wonder if the word "disturbed" is inappropriate. (It may very well be appropriate.) Rather, I think it is a way for some people to take care of their emotional needs. Some people have extremely large emotional needs, and they need the strong (and often inappropriate) emotional "charge" that proselytizing gives them.

[path_of_one]

Originally Posted by Nick the Pilot

Some people have extremely large emotional needs, and they need the strong (and often inappropriate) emotional "charge" that proselytizing gives them.

Sounds like psi-vampirism.

[Nick the Pilot]

Vampirism?

Actually, that is a very good analogy. They are manipulating people into helping them with their emotional needs in an inappropriate way.

[Dream]

Vampirism? I think its too strong of a word although the potential is there in the long term. Not every parasite is a vampire. Sometimes parasites live to pick the bugs off the Rhino's rump, which is a positive relationship not a negative one. Ok, maybe the bugs don't like it.

[path_of_one]

The concept of psi (or energy) vampires is basically that they feed off others' energy, generally unconscious they are doing so. It's just a concept (nothing to do with Dracula or anything) but I do notice some people do this and it tends to make everyone around them feel a certain way. Some people seem disposed to creating certain emotions in others (such as fear, anger, guilt, etc.) and then they get a "high" off that energy in others.

The other issue are those people who like to feel like a martyr because then they feel better about themselves. Of course, once the sense of martyrdom wears off, then they feel lousy again and often it is tied to guilt at having a normal, happy life. So off they go to martyr themselves once more, ensure feelings of rejection, and then transform rejection into feeling misunderstood, abused, etc. for their faith/higher cause.

Yes, some people are actually martyred for a cause, but it seems much more rare than people who choose to interpret others' "no thanks" as some sort of persecution, which is really psychologically warped.

[Dawud]

Vampires, huh? Anyone reading Stephanie Meyer's books?

Back to the question of have we beaten our swords into plowshares? Yes, I think it's safe to say that Baha'is do not fight. One of the principles of the Baha'i Faith, or one of the Glad-Tidings (there's a book called Glad-Tidings) is that the law of holy war has been abolished. Baha'is are not allowed to fight over religion, and we are not allowed to deny our religion in order to save our own lives.

[cyberpi]

Originally Posted by Nick the Pilot

Alex,

I have been taking a look at how people who think it is OK to bother other people with their religion are actually suffereing from unmet emotional needs. I find the whole thing fascinating.

I wonder if the word "disturbed" is inappropriate. (It may very well be appropriate.) Rather, I think it is a way for some people to take care of their emotional needs. Some people have extremely large emotional needs, and they need the strong (and often inappropriate) emotional "charge" that proselytizing gives them.

While I personally think this is true of 'some'... it would be saying 'some'thing if it weren't the teaching of the atheist that this is true of 'all' aspects of 'all' people. The atheist teaches with natural selection and evolution that 'all' things done in 'every' relationship is merely the product of a naturally selected genetic physical need or otherwise nurtured need. For example the largest degree of proselytizing in history, according to the atheist, takes place with raising children... and the purpose of having a family? According to natural selection it is for the naturally selected sex drive, the feel of the orgasm, and the efficiency of child labor.

I agree with you Nick that 'some' things are naturally selected. What I disagree with is the claim that 'ALL' things are naturally selected.

[mee]

Originally Posted by Alex P

Nooooooooooo mee!!! Noooo lol

You said....

"have they beaten their swords into plough shares , are they known as a people who do not take up arms against his fellow man"

So I quoted the song by disturbed which quotes...

"Out of Zion shall come forth a law
And the word of the Lord from Jerusalem
Nation shall not raise
sword against nation
And they shall not learn war anymore
For the mouth, of the Lord, hath, spoken.."


Nevermind ;\

oh i am with you now silly mee i was just wondering why you thought i had hate in my heart , i am after peace it is better psalm 37;11

But the meek ones themselves will possess the earth,
And they will indeed find their exquisite delight in the abundance of peace.

i am a work in progress i am climbing that mountain to be instructed by the most high(Jehovah)

And it must occur in the final part of the days [that] the mountain of the house of Jehovah will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, and it will certainly be lifted up above the hills; and to it peoples must stream. And many nations will certainly go and say: "Come, YOU people, and let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah and to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will instruct us about his ways, and we will walk in his paths." For out of Zion law will go forth, and the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem. And he will certainly render judgment among many peoples, and set matters straight respecting mighty nations far away. And they will have to beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning shears. They will not lift up sword, nation against nation, neither will they learn war anymore. micah 4;1-3

[mee]

when it comes to those who are doing the will of God by telling forth the GOODNEWS . matthew 24;14 they are inline with the most high God(Jehovah), and they love God very much and they also love their neighbor that is why they keep on giving out GOODNEWS .

Jehovah is not slow respecting his promise, as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with you because he does not desire any to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance."—2 Peter 3:9; see also Matthew 24:21, 22.

[Nick the Pilot]

Path, Dream, and Alex,

I have become aware of a connection between aggressive proselytizing and bipolar disorder. Here is a good overview of bipolar disorder.

Bipolar disorder and manic depression information - MayoClinic.com

What caught my eye was similarities in symptoms between the two groups.

Bipolar disorder and manic depression information: Signs and symptoms - MayoClinic.com

I am going to take a closer look at this. I am curious as to what anyone else comes up with.