When was Jesus born?

[didymus]

Q i must be daft 'cause I still don't know what the blazes you're talking about.

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by didymus

Q i must be daft 'cause I still don't know what the blazes you're talking about.

No, you're fine. I missed Dor's post, and kept posting away, then he caught my attention, and I had to pull a "d'uh", because he'd found information that pointed out the possible actual birthday of Jesus, and I missed it.

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[Basstian]

Ok just going to say this
Easter on the day and the way we celebrate it from the bunnies to the eggs. Christmas and trees and the day we celebrate it they all come from a god by the name of tammuz.

I think they got tied into Christianity through roman soldiers who were into mithraism and worshipped some of the very old gods from babylon.

Ezekiel 8:13 He said also unto me, Turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations that they do.
Ezekiel 8:14 Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD'S house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.

Ezekiel 8:16 And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD'S house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.
Ezekiel 8:17 Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose.


Now I am not sure how right this is to Christianize something rooted in false gods. But the fact is it was done.
The birth of Christ was centered around a tax decree that would have accured in the fall this and the time of Johns birth gives us a real clear idea it was well before Dec.
As far as easter and the date well you just cant convince me that passover had nothing to do with it. To me Jesus was that lamb and passover should be a VERY Christian thing.
I wonder sometimes how much impact the verses saying FLEE from idoltary had on the roman church when creating all these festivals and holidays.

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Basstian

Ok just going to say this
Easter on the day and the way we celebrate it from the bunnies to the eggs. Christmas and trees and the day we celebrate it they all come from a god by the name of tammuz.

I think they got tied into Christianity through roman soldiers who were into mithraism and worshipped some of the very old gods from babylon.

Ezekiel 8:13 He said also unto me, Turn thee yet again, and thou shalt see greater abominations that they do.
Ezekiel 8:14 Then he brought me to the door of the gate of the LORD'S house which was toward the north; and, behold, there sat women weeping for Tammuz.

Ezekiel 8:16 And he brought me into the inner court of the LORD'S house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the LORD, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the LORD, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.
Ezekiel 8:17 Then he said unto me, Hast thou seen this, O son of man? Is it a light thing to the house of Judah that they commit the abominations which they commit here? for they have filled the land with violence, and have returned to provoke me to anger: and, lo, they put the branch to their nose.


Now I am not sure how right this is to Christianize something rooted in false gods. But the fact is it was done.
The birth of Christ was centered around a tax decree that would have accured in the fall this and the time of Johns birth gives us a real clear idea it was well before Dec.
As far as easter and the date well you just cant convince me that passover had nothing to do with it. To me Jesus was that lamb and passover should be a VERY Christian thing.
I wonder sometimes how much impact the verses saying FLEE from idoltary had on the roman church when creating all these festivals and holidays.

How does one convince another to come to their terms, unless one understands their background and can associate or otherwise empathise with? Smart missionaries...dumm theological leadership. Should have followed through to correct the initial misnomers, but laziness prevailed (as well as absolute arrogance). The Catholic Church heiarchy was/is a perfect example of arrogant laziness ( I know, I are one, eh Catholic that is). That is why things happen, and then we wonder later why it got so out of control...

my two ceasars, er cents...

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[mee]

Evidently Jesus was born sometime in the early autumn of the year.