Which Disciple?

[KnightoftheRose]

Peter, definitely. He denied Christ three times, and yet Christ forgave him, and his love for him didn't diminish even the slightest. Yeah, I can relate...

[Bandit]

Originally Posted by KnightoftheRose

Peter, definitely. He denied Christ three times, and yet Christ forgave him, and his love for him didn't diminish even the slightest. Yeah, I can relate...

right. Peter was there for Jesus even in the denial & even at the arrest when the others ran, he defended him & Peter went along behind Jesus. I always found that fascinating too, Jesus still loved him & Peter still loved Jesus & deep down Peter did not forsake him. I always felt that in the fulness of the time, Peter had to also deny him at that time or else he may have been crucified at the same time. Oh, but when the sermon of Peter came forth on the day of Pentecost, it was in boldness & truth for the Lord Jesus.

Thomas needed that. He had to touch him & I think I would have needed to touch him also to remove any doubt. I also wondered, that if any of the others had been doubting at the time, that one brother being a witness was all it took for the others to believe it was him & would have held the confidence for them to tarry in jeruselem until they were endewed with the power of the Holy Ghost. I think deep down he knew, but waivered a bit, which is normal & that touching him is all that matters. I think there was more than a physical touch there & I draw spiritual parallels with all the disciples.

I think there was a difference there in denial & doubt & not betrayal. By a difference I mean, that deep down none of them ever betrayed him except for the one.
The world does not realize how much pain they inflict on the true believers & body of Christ when they surmise & look for ways to create doubt. I dont think the brothers & sisters realize how much pain we can cause each other, when we argue too much over the Word & accuse each other of not being a true believer & disciple. These are the works of the devil to create doubt, discord, confusion & divisions... But in that travail we are being made into a perfect man.
Glad to see you are still in there Knight

[KnightoftheRose]

I always found that fascinating too, Jesus still loved him & Peter still loved Jesus & deep down Peter did not forsake him.

Indeed, one could say "peer pressure" caused Peter to deny Christ (although, that does seem to diminish what he went through.) But Peter realized what he had done after he had done it, and sought redemption. I suppose that's the way it is with so many of us; we do things - little things - that turn us away from Christ, but in the end we realize our mistakes and come back to him. And he's always there, with open arms and a big grin, knowing his children have come home...

I dont think the brothers & sisters realize how much pain we can cause each other, when we argue too much over the Word & accuse each other of not being a true believer & disciple.

That struck home. It's only been recently that I've come to realize that a Christian, no matter what his philosophy or political beliefs, is a Christian, and therefore my brother (or sister.)

I'm glad you haven't left the boards, too, Bandit.

[InLove]

I would have to say all of them (Jesus knew what He was doing) I would also say Paul, later. And I will have to think on Judas Iscariot a little--he certainly did contribute to the driving of those nails, as have I.

And there were, of course, many disciples besides the Twelve, but that has already been addressed--

But my favorite? John. I just like the way he writes

InPeace,
InLove

[Marcion]

well for me Paul and his inner circle were the true apostles, I don't count the others as being true, because of my doctrine, so I must say PaulIf I were a mainstream christian though, I'd go with Matthew because his gospel is the most spiritual of the 4, it has Jesus say much more things than the others do and it's just a very elegant gospel all in all

[Gwynplaine]

I seem to follow the path of it varies based on where I am in my life. Anyone else care to admit to Judas more than once? 2003 was my time to stand outside Gethsemene, waiting for the soldiers to come and be guided. Very dark time.

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by lunamoth

You're one of a kind, indeed, Q. And yes I knew you had already picked a NT person.

I guess this question is too loaded. Just thought it might be fun.

peace,
lunamoth

Loaded question? Nice pun. And how'd you know I'd already had one in mind... (rhetorical question)

v/r

Q