Who control the world ?

Friend · 01-24-2005, 11:55 PM

Salaamu Alyckum all
I have many questions that need answers to explain the truth about the claim of some people that Masons control the world .So ,if someone here no any thing about this issue he can help and give his idea or information. if he want !!

What is the relation between politics and Masonic? What is the relation between Masonic and religions? and what is the Masonic lodge? Are they control the world ?

Allah bless all

KnightoftheRose · 01-25-2005, 10:30 AM

Naw, its the Illuminati who control the world

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The Masons are technically a charity organization. Pretty much anyone of any faith can join, so long as they are invited to join by a member. A "lodge", I think, is just a Masonic chapter in any local area. Now, as for the conspiracy theories concerning the Masons...well, it used to be that upper-class Brits (nobility and the like) would join the Masons, and the whole affair would be highly secretive (secret meetings and rituals and whatnot). Further, American Presidents (to this day) are supposedly invited to join the Masons upon their inauguration...so anyways, drawing from this, people like to claim that the Masons are controlling the upper-eschalons of society. But honestly, its just a club.

brucegdc · 01-25-2005, 11:54 AM

Naah. Cats control the world. Think about it - they laze around, nothing to do in most cases, and we keep them and feed them and clean up their hairballs....

Postmaster · 01-25-2005, 12:25 PM

I agree Cats control the world but they a cover up for the real people controling the world. People in higher class, people with a significant amount of money that control world and local issues and thats a fact.

Friend · 01-26-2005, 12:50 PM

Salaamu Alyckum all

If you interested and have a time, read this book in this site .......then put your opinion about it.

http://www.harunyahya.com/globalfreemasonry06.php

I, Brian · 01-27-2005, 12:15 PM

I only had time to have a quick glance - but like a lot of conspiracy sites, it seems thick on invective and shallow on detail. Oh, it's happy to inlcude a lot of well referenced historical detail - but at no point - so far as I could see in a quick read, did it ever justify a single claim that Masons were involved in any part of it.

For example, it details the Russian uprising of 1895 - and than flatly states: "The Decembrists were none other than Masons". Proof? Justification? Source? There is none.

Simply copy the material and replace all the words "Mason" and "Masons" with whichever is your preferred enemy of choice:

Satan
Secularism
Christianity/Christians
Satanists
America/Americans
Islam/Muslims

It's just stock conspiracy theory - not a single actual accusation backed up with anything other than invective.

Friend · 01-31-2005, 12:55 PM

Salaamu Alyckum all

The globalization attitudes which is made the world as small village , actually it is maximised the benefit of the multi-national companies around the world , also exploit the low and middle level people ,and restrict the authority of many countries , their utility is the first requirement despite of anything else. But I think that after September 11 events and the war against terrorism the activities of the multi-national companies are decreases ,and the economic power has been influenced negatively . I want to discuss this issue with others , I feel that there are a big conflict between the economic power and the political power .and I want to ask this question to those whom interested in this subject : Which is the biggest power in the world ,the economic power or the political power ?

I, Brian · 01-31-2005, 04:27 PM

Certainly there has been an incredible rise in economic power over national boundaries - while politics is supposed to be tempered by local concerns (ie, the electorate) there is a definite danger of corporate bodies having undue influence on governments.

Unfortunately, it's a pretty common historical pattern for the rich and powerful to ride over the lower classes to achieve their own personal and limited ambitions.

On the issue of conspiracy, though - even though corporate bodies may contain people who know each other, of each other, even friendly with each other - my perception is that the persons involved will be very competitve, and ultimately be competitive against each other.

Quahom1 · 02-02-2005, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Friend

Salaamu Alyckum all
I have many questions that need answers to explain the truth about the claim of some people that Masons control the world .So ,if someone here no any thing about this issue he can help and give his idea or information. if he want !!

What is the relation between politics and Masonic? What is the relation between Masonic and religions? and what is the Masonic lodge? Are they control the world ?

Allah bless all

Ah'allan Friend,

Here is some information on the topic:

Freemasonry is a fraternal organization which exists in nearly all countries where men are free to choose the company and character of their associates. It teaches a belief in the Fatherhood of God, the brotherhood of man and the immortality of the soul. It is religious in character, but adopts no particular creed – and urges all of its members to practice the religion of his choice. It is designed to make men of good morals better by symbolically applying the principles of architecture and operative Masonry to the science and art of character building. It urges its members to be charitable but is not a charity. It is not a secret organization in a free society, but it is the first to be banned when a government becomes totalitarian. Anyone wishing to petition must seek the recommendation of a member.

And another order of similar design:

The Rosicrucian Order, AMORC, is internationally known as the Ancient Mystical Order Rosae Crucis. We are a nonsectarian body of men and women devoted to the investigation, study and practical application of natural and spiritual laws. Our purpose is to further the evolution of humanity through the development of the full potential of each individual. Our goal is to enable everyone to live in harmony with creative, cosmic forces for the attainment of health, happiness, and peace.

You might say that the people who join these orders, often times find their ways of thinking to be rather deep, that is much deeper than say that of an "average" person. So they look for others that think like them. Often they are not satisfied with the "dogma" of organized religion, but are extremely spiritual, and are not content to receive bits and pieces of enlightenment from the "church" from time to time, nor do they wish to wait until "old age" to begin caring for society as a whole. Therefore they actively seek out the "truth" rather than wait for it to come to them.

I think Friend, that these groups are benign, and benevolent (based on my observation). If they wanted to take over the world, they may well have done so centuries ago.

One particular example I can provide of their adherence to take care of others, is the Masonic Home in Seattle, Washington. It is huge (several acres), and beautiful, and the elderly within are treated with the utmost respect and dignity. If I'm not mistaken, it also costs the families of the elderly residing there, next to nothing. The Masons also give alot of money to childrens' funds (for healing sick kids).

The Rosicrucians gather in meditation, and "pray" for the well being of others, and for the world as a whole. They also teach others how to tap into the cosmic strength or energy that is available to all of us, and to learn to be still, even in a chaotic, noisy world.

Of course they would invite people who show potential towards affecting the world on a macro level, to join with them. Their optomistic view on life prohibits them from just letting things entropy into chaos. They do not appear to force anything, but offer solace and calm, and teach focus.

That is my take of course, based on my observation. But Friend, as with any human orginization, there might be fringe variants that do not follow the precepts of the collective majority. And as always the "fringe" can cause the majority of "bad news" or bad publicity (horror stories), that the media loves to exploit.

No, I am not a Mason, nor ever have been (too busy to take a breath, let alone think deeply)

Just my two cents.

v/r

Q

Friend · 02-03-2005, 07:27 AM

Salaam

Quahom1 :I read from many resources that Masons have levels ,and they have an observed activities and non observed activities . So if they have any secret activities or certain objectives ,Do you think that any one can know about them ??

Quahom1 · 02-03-2005, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Friend

Salaam

Quahom1 :I read from many resources that Masons have levels ,and they have an observed activities and non observed activities . So if they have any secret activities or certain objectives ,Do you think that any one can know about them ??