Who do you like?

[Operacast]

Originally Posted by Paladin

And let us not forget that even in our Corporatocracy another voice can still be heard...
Michael Colby: Ralph Nader vs. the Fundamentalist Liberals

I would only look seriously at Nader or McCain if Senator Clinton is nominated by the Democrats. However, if Obama is nominated, I'd look on that as one of the best things to happen in politics in my lifetime. Not only would I very much hope for an Obama victory in the Fall, I would view Nader's attempt to run as needlessly destructive.

Sincerely,

Operacast

[wil]

Originally Posted by Operacast

I would only look seriously at Nader or McCain if Senator Clinton is nominated by the Democrats. However, if Obama is nominated, I'd look on that as one of the best things to happen in politics in my lifetime. Not only would I very much hope for an Obama victory in the Fall, I would view Nader's attempt to run as needlessly destructive.

Darned interesting, Nader's run, his expression of his constitutional right, his voice of a completely different nature... is deemed acceptable and a possibility in one scenario and destructive in another?

If I could combine my favorite traits of Nader, Kucinich and Ron Paul, they'd beat my favorite traits of Obama, Hillary and McCain hands down. But that's just me.

[China Cat Sunflower]

Originally Posted by wil

Here we go, with the last primairies the Republicans got two presents, both with a double edged sword.

First McCain locks it up and Huckabee concedes...all well and good, but now John has to go the Whitehouse to be endorsed by George, surely that 34% favorability rating will help tremendously!

Second Hillary wins and keeps the battle splitting Democrats alive, but if she can keep the momentum the likelihood of a Clinton/Obama ticket looms. And that would be unbeatable.

Ron Paul is dancing as last challenger standing, odds are he'll go all the way to the convention now, hoping to get a few protest votes from those who don't want McCain.

I'm possibly one of the few people who think that Hillary tightening up the race is a good thing. It's actually good for all three leading contenders. McCain gets some breathing room, Hillary lives to fight on, and Obama gets a more thorough vetting before the general election. Plus, as Howard Dean said today, we get to have a fifty state contest for the first time in forever. McCain's strategy is interesting. He said today at the White house, accepting Bush's endorsement, that he looked forward to as many appearances with Bush as he could possibly get. I'm all for that! But you have to wonder, giving McCain his due as a cagey old veteran of politics, what he thinks he knows that the rest of us don't. I mean, there was a point when the conventional wisdom had McCain's campaign dead in the water, and look where he is now.

As far as third party candidates are concerned, I don't see Nader making much of a dent this time. He may pick up one or two percent in the general election (unless Paul goes indie), but I don't see him being a significant factor this time unless the super D's tilt toward Hillary even with Obama ahead in the delegate count and there is no other more viable third party candidate.

I'll be interested to see if there is a do-over of the Michigan and Florida primaries. That could make a significant difference if Hillary really regains a lot of momentum through the Pennsylvania primary seven weeks from now, and it's the only outside chance I see for her to win the delegate count by convention time.

I'm seeing a lot of really superficial rhetoric and hand wringing on the part of the progressive base which I think is entirely unwarranted. It's actually comical to watch people who hate politics as usual sweat when conventional wisdom flies out the window.

Chris

[Gatekeeper]

Originally Posted by Operacast

I would only look seriously at Nader or McCain if Senator Clinton is nominated by the Democrats. However, if Obama is nominated, I'd look on that as one of the best things to happen in politics in my lifetime. Not only would I very much hope for an Obama victory in the Fall, I would view Nader's attempt to run as needlessly destructive.

Sincerely,

Operacast

I think Nadar will have little effect on the elections - no matter if Clinton, or Obama becomes the nominee. At least not enough to prevent a democrat from becoming president. 8 years of Bush poilitics have left a bad tast in many a mouth, and now McCain is inline to become "Bushies boy". Sorry if I offend, but this is what I am seeing form McCain.

I'll be voting Obama if he is the nominee, and I'll be voting for Clinton if she becomes the nominee. There are only a few 'big' differences between the two, so I'm pretty sure I'd be happy with either one. I like McCain, but he's a bit ill tempered, and too "Gung Ho" to continue the war. He wishes to stay in Iraq for 100 years, or more.

Besides, I like both Clinton, and Obama, and it will be a sweet day indeed to elect a minority as president of the United Sates - They give me hope, and I think either will inspire, and lead the way to a better America.

This sure to be an exciting year - Clinton has just begun to fight - now we shall see what Obama is made of. He'll need the experience if he's going to take on McCain.

James

[wil]

The plot thickens again!

Obama wins Texas??

The Texas two step, first a primary, then a caucus.

Caucuses favor Obama, you gotta hang out and state your case, face to face, for sometimes hours. So the young and boisterous get a little bigger edge. Add that to the theory that a large percentage of Republicans showed up to the primary to vote for Hillary then left...looks like Obama wins the caucus by a large margin, large enough to exceeed Hillary's primary delegates, only 40% in, 2 months to finish counting, but looks like Obama may be 3 delegates ahead in Texas.

Interesting timing, it'll keep everything going back and forth right up to the Pennsylvania primary.

[China Cat Sunflower]

I understand that Hillary netted about fifteen delegates from her good showing on Tuesday. That still leaves her a hundred or so behind Obama. The "wins" get her free face time on the networks and makes her a bigger character in the media's narrative. It's good for buzz, and buzz translates into momentum on tee vee.

Chris

[wil]

The honeymoon is over. The mainstream press has finally decided to jump into the shady real estate deals of Obama and his 'contributor'. And the folks are now wondering how he's been sitting listening to his preacher for 20 years and never heard him say anything that was questionable.

Hillary's camp still claiming a win in Texas, wants to get Michigan in as is without any Obama votes, tis a sticky wicket.

Rumors amidst that at the convention the powers that be will bestow knighthood on Al Gore and end the whole dispute...

Meanwhile McCain looks for a cardiac specialist as a running mate...

[Pathless]

Originally Posted by wil

Meanwhile McCain looks for a cardiac specialist as a running mate...

*chuckle*

I'm getting tired of the McCain banner ads in our politics section: "Only one man has the..." and I'm all like,

"GAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!"

[China Cat Sunflower]

How far out is Pennsylvania? I've forgotten. Politics time is different. Anyway...I'm watching the down-time horse race play out on the blogs and in the media cycle. I'm so fascinated by the media's narrative creation process. How they try to lead by being a half step behind. I think that the narrative is about to change. If they don't find Obama's mistress within the next couple of weeks leading up to these late primary contests the press will be done with Hillary. Super delegates or no. Thus far she has been adrift in the sheltered harbor of the really big talking head's graces, but that's already started to turn.

Chris

[China Cat Sunflower]

McCain McSame.

Chris

[China Cat Sunflower]

Oh, and look...there's a Should Hillary Quit banner in the spam-o-matic. IsweartoGod I hadn't seen it!

[wil]

Originally Posted by China Cat Sunflower

McCain McSame.

Chris

Hillary Hussein McSame. The may look like an aging Mod Squad, but they are all from the same tree and carved by the same carpenters, I mean lobbyists.

[China Cat Sunflower]

Hilbarjon McSame.

Barack's going to be elected, and you know what? It's going to be like the second coming of Jimmy Carter, man!

Chris

[Operacast]

Originally Posted by Gatekeeper

I'll be voting Obama if he is the nominee, and I'll be voting for Clinton if she becomes the nominee. There are only a few 'big' differences between the two, so I'm pretty sure I'd be happy with either one. I like McCain, but he's a bit ill tempered, and too "Gung Ho" to continue the war. He wishes to stay in Iraq for 100 years, or more.

James

Actually, just recently, there have been developing some huuuuuuuuge differences between Obama and Clinton on war. Clinton now has been echoing the Administration line that Iran is still looking for nuclear weapons, even though the latest intelligence now indicates that Iran has actually suspended all such intentions and activities for roughly half a decade by now (Iran's Nuclear Ambitions : NPR). In addition, Clinton said it was important to remind Iran that [paraphrase] "we can entirely obliterate them if we like"[!]. All this is starting to sound awfully like McCain to me, frankly. I really believe this underscores that the choice is not between Obama/Clinton versus McCain but Obama versus Clinton/McCain.

Truly,

Operacast

[wil]

Originally Posted by China Cat Sunflower

Barack's going to be elected, and you know what? It's going to be like the second coming of Jimmy Carter, man!

yikes 22% interest, get your loan now!

Originally Posted by Operacast

I really believe this underscores that the choice is not between Obama/Clinton versus McCain but Obama versus Clinton/McCain.

Coorecto, Hillary is a member of the Good ole Boys, but Obama is moving in...

If it were a horse race we are now seeing Obama tiring in the stretch and Hillary coming up strong to take the lead. Even if she loses by a nose she will claim victory. And most likely get the judges to disqualify Obama. He'll take the backdoor deal to bow out gracefully keep the race riots to a minimum and utilize the VP spot to prepare him for his next run...'16