Why Christians fear Islam

Faithfulservant · 01-09-2005, 02:27 AM

Hello

Its been weighing heavily on my mind why some Christians fear Islam. In my research of this I found an article that was disturbing to me and I would like to share it in hopes of clearing up the question of apostacy in Islam. I would like our forums Muslims to please read the article and respond if you can find the time.

Thank you
Faithful Servant

http://www.bibletopics.com/biblestudy/96.htm Part 1

http://www.bibletopics.com/biblestudy/96a.htm Part 2

Friend · 01-09-2005, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Faithfulservant

Hello

Its been weighing heavily on my mind why some Christians fear Islam. In my research of this I found an article that was disturbing to me and I would like to share it in hopes of clearing up the question of apostacy in Islam. I would like our forums Muslims to please read the article and respond if you can find the time.

Thank you
Faithful Servant

Al Salaamu Alyckum

Faithfulservant,I think this needs deep research to clarify the truth ,because not everything you read about Islam specially stories about Islam after Mohameed (PUH) death actually right. however ,Christians are not related to this issue the rejecting of Islam after believing in it ,it is related to those whom believe in Islam that no one can force them to inter it according to Quraan and Islamic rules ,so why Christians will fear from Islam because of this?? .

The other fact is that Islam never declared the concept of converting others into the faith as part of the Muslims' duties. On the contrary, Islam limited the Muslims' duties in this respect to the balagh (conveyance): If then they turn away, We have not sent thee as a guard over them. Thy duty is but to convey (the Message(

The words of God in the Quran advocates the absolute freedom of religion. Any society or nation which claims to be Islamic must have fundamental freedom of religion. The right to preach any religion, the right to assembly and worship would be the basic tenants. Tolerance of other religions and civility would be the hallmarks of such a society. It will be the duty of the state to preserve and protect the right of any citizen to practice their religion in freedom.

“GOD does not enjoin you from befriendingthose who do not fight you because of religion, and do not evict you from your homes. You may befriend them and be equitable towards them. GOD loves the equitable. GOD enjoins you only from befriending those who fight you because of religion, evict you from your homes, and band together with others to banish you. You shall not befriend them. Those who befriend them are the transgressors”.[60:8-9]

Let us look at Noble Verse 2:217 "They ask thee (Mohammed) Concerning fighting In the Prohibited Month. Say: Fighting therein Is a grave (offence); but graver is it In the sight of Allah to prevent access to the path of Allah, to deny Him, to prevent access to the sacred Mosque, and drive out its members. Tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter. Nor will they cease fighting you until they turn you back from your faith if they can. And if any of you turn back from their faith (Islam) and die in unbelief, their works will bear no fruit in this life and in the hereafter; they will be companions of the fire and will abide therein." Here in this Holy Verse we see that Allah Almighty talks about those who leave Islam, and promises them punishment in the day of judgment. Allah Almighty doesn't order the death of those people.

Let also look at Noble Verse 5:54 "O ye who believe! If any from among you turn back from his faith, soon will Allah produce a people whom He (Allah) will love as they will love Him lowly with the believers, Mighty against the rejecters, fighting in the way of Allah, and never afraid of the reproachers of such as find fault. That is the Grace of Allah which He will bestow on whom He (Allah) pleaseth. And Allah encompasseth all, and He knoweth all things." Here in this Holy Verse we see again Allah Almighty strengthening the faith of the Muslims in Islam by assuring them that whenever they see Muslims leaving Islam they will also see those who join Islam with strong faith and love to Allah Almighty.

"As most men are rebellious." (5:49), it is inevitable that there should be apostates even from such a religion of reason and common-sense as Islam. In Verse 5:54 above there is a warning to the Muslims that they should not repeat the history of the Jews, and become so self-satisfied or arrogant as to depart from the spirit of Allah's teaching. If they do, the loss will be their own. Allah's bounty is not confined to one group or section of humanity. He can always raise up people who will follow the true spirit of Islam. That spirit is defined in two ways:

1- They will love Allah Almighty and Allah Almighty will love them.

2- Amongst the Brethren, their attitude will be that of humility, but to wrongdoers they will offer no compromises, and they will always strive and fight for the truth and right. They will know no fear, either physical, or that more insidious form. They are too great in mind to be haunted by any such thought.

Let us look at Noble Verse 5:55 "(O Muslims) Your (real) friends are (No less than) Allah, His Messenger, and the (Fellowship Of) Believers, those who establish regular prayers and regular charity, and they bow down humbly (in worship)." Here we see Allah Almighty telling Muslims after he warned them from apostates in (5:54) that their real friends are: Allah Almighty, Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him, and the good Muslims who keep up with their prayers and charity, and who humbly worship their God.

Let us look at Noble Verse 3:90 "But those who reject faith after they accepted it, and then go on adding to their defiance of faith never will their repentance be accepted; for they are those who have (of set purpose) gone astray." Here in this holy verse we see Allah Almighty rejecting the faith of those who keep coming back and forth to Islam. In order for a human being to accept Islam as his religion, he must be certain about it first. Allah Almighty's path is wide open, and his mercy is greater than this universe. This Holy Verse also does not order the death of those who leave Islam.

The path to Allah Almighty is always open and Allah Almighty will be your friend as in verse (5:55) above, and he will forgive your sins for you once you repent as in the following verse: "Except for those that repent (Even) after that, And make amends; for Allah is Oft-Forgiving Most Merciful." (3:89).

Please visit

http://www.knowingislam.netfirms.com/Apostates_in_islam.htm

http://www.answering-islam.com/death.htm

Thanks to all

Faithfulservant · 01-09-2005, 12:20 PM

Wow Muslims twist our scripture as much as we do them I guess.

for example.. there was a link to bible verses showing God as angry and hateful in the new testament

This verse was sent to me by Yusif 65; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him: 2 Chronicles 15:13 "All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman."

this is actually what it was

Then they entered into a covenant to seek the Lord God of their ancestors with all their mind and all their heart. 13 Whoever would not seek the Lord God of Israel would be put to death, young or old, man or woman. 14 They took an oath to the Lord in a loud voice, with shouting, with trumpets, and with rams' horns. 15 All Judah rejoiced over the oath, for they had sworn it with all their mind. They had sought Him with all their heart, and He was found by them. So the Lord gave them rest on every side.

The jews were promising God that if they followed them with all their heart would allow rest for them.

THE JEWISH PEOPLE made THAT oath to GOD that they would put to death people who did not except him.. THAT WAS NOT GOD. Its horrible that this is posted on a muslim website showing Christianity falsly.. Im disappointed.

Wow Im reading more and Im just disgusted with how its being taken out of context. I cant even begin to tell you how sad this makes me to think that muslims believe this because they read it on a page thats supposed to be a source of reference for people seeking faith. I now believe that everything muslims think of christianity is ALL lies. Then again I guess it goes both ways. Christians believe everything your religion teaches is lies. Let me give you another site to read.. this is what Christians believe about Islam.

http://www.lovekjb.com/mohammed.html

I want you to know dear Friend.. that my anger is not directed at you or Islam my anger is directed at people that misquote the scriptures of my faith in order to give FALSE TEACHINGS about God.

How can we ever find peace between our two faiths if someone gives the blessing of Allah on those that twist and contort the scriptures in order to prove the invalidity of our beliefs. How can we ever find peace if someone misquotes The Koran in order to twist and contort your scriptures to prove the invalidity of your beliefs. I am truly in despair right now.

Faithful Servant

aquaris · 01-09-2005, 01:07 PM

There are hate Mongers both way.... and they twist and quote out of context.... material from any faith....be that Jewism, Chritanity, or Islam or any other religion.

..In My Humble understanding..... Most of the Monethiest religion have a common beggining From ADAM then upto their prophet be it (Ibrahim, Musa, Isa or Mohammed ).....So that is the common ground....
All religion teach goodness, ... No religion teaches hate..... Its only ..... those who want to exploit it for their own personal gains report or quote out of context....

Friend · 01-09-2005, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Faithfulservant

Wow Muslims twist our scripture as much as we do them I guess.

for example.. there was a link to bible verses showing God as angry and hateful in the new testament

This verse was sent to me by Yusif 65; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him: 2 Chronicles 15:13 "All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman."

this is actually what it was

Then they entered into a covenant to seek the Lord God of their ancestors with all their mind and all their heart. 13 Whoever would not seek the Lord God of Israel would be put to death, young or old, man or woman. 14 They took an oath to the Lord in a loud voice, with shouting, with trumpets, and with rams' horns. 15 All Judah rejoiced over the oath, for they had sworn it with all their mind. They had sought Him with all their heart, and He was found by them. So the Lord gave them rest on every side.

The jews were promising God that if they followed them with all their heart would allow rest for them.

THE JEWISH PEOPLE made THAT oath to GOD that they would put to death people who did not except him.. THAT WAS NOT GOD. Its horrible that this is posted on a muslim website showing Christianity falsly.. Im disappointed.

Wow Im reading more and Im just disgusted with how its being taken out of context. I cant even begin to tell you how sad this makes me to think that muslims believe this because they read it on a page thats supposed to be a source of reference for people seeking faith. I now believe that everything muslims think of christianity is ALL lies. Then again I guess it goes both ways. Christians believe everything your religion teaches is lies. Let me give you another site to read.. this is what Christians believe about Islam.

http://www.lovekjb.com/mohammed.html

I want you to know dear Friend.. that my anger is not directed at you or Islam my anger is directed at people that misquote the scriptures of my faith in order to give FALSE TEACHINGS about God.

How can we ever find peace between our two faiths if someone gives the blessing of Allah on those that twist and contort the scriptures in order to prove the invalidity of our beliefs. How can we ever find peace if someone misquotes The Koran in order to twist and contort your scriptures to prove the invalidity of your beliefs. I am truly in despair right now.

Faithful Servant

Salaam to all

Faithfulservant,I'm sorry if you understand that I believe in everything I read about your religion ,but I want you and all Christians here to feel how we are Muslims also feel when you refers to some of antiislamic site to understand Islam .

Faithfulservant · 01-10-2005, 08:53 AM

Dear Friend.

My whole desire in wanting to know your faith is so that I can teach Christian brothers and sisters that Islam is not the horrible hate and war and violence that its believed to be. I am advocating for Islam because I see the peacefulness of you and Thipps and I know that what we have come to believe about Islam is NOT true . I would like to share this with my fellow Christians. You have been very patient in your discourse with me and I very much appreciate it. I would like for you to ask me questions when something sounds wrong about Christianity so you can share with YOUR brothers and sisters that we should not always believe what is written.

In believing that Islam is evil we are losing out on a wonderful friendship between our faiths. I believe that we can ALL learn something from each other. I hope to be a teacher of religious tolerance.. I can try. With the help of you and others that are willing to discuss it with me.

Thank you
Faithful Servant

Faithfulservant · 01-10-2005, 08:57 AM

Dear Friend.

I also wanted to add that the reason I posted that anti-islamic site was so that you could see for yourself that its being done about Islam .. and I was hoping you would understand how it felt for me to see you using that anti-christian site as a reference for your thoughts. I wanted you to know that EVERYTHING on that site was wrong. Just like everything on the site I linked was wrong.

Faithful Servant

Friend · 01-10-2005, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Faithfulservant

Dear Friend.

I also wanted to add that the reason I posted that anti-islamic site was so that you could see for yourself that its being done about Islam .. and I was hoping you would understand how it felt for me to see you using that anti-christian site as a reference for your thoughts. I wanted you to know that EVERYTHING on that site was wrong. Just like everything on the site I linked was wrong.

Faithful Servant

Al Salaamu Alyckum

My Friend Faithfulservant,I respect and appreciate your perceptions about Islam,and I'm happy that you received my idea . my best wishes for you.

I, Brian · 01-13-2005, 12:40 PM

The original links look like a particularly nasty piece of anti-Islamic spin, but are unfortunately common and reciprocated.

My basic understanding is that the Qur'an calls on Muslims to respect Jews and Christians as "people of the book".

In fact, Christians and Jews were apparently very well treated up until the 11th century on the Gregorian calendar, when things went awry between Christianity and Islam because of the crusades.

Jews continued to be well respected in part of Islam - Bagdad used to have a large and flourishing Jewish community whom I believe were particularly well remarked up by Arab scholars. However, the whole Israel-Palestine issue has completely soured Jewish and Islamic relations, with a lot of nasty politics being involved.

For the time being, it seems a big mixture of politics and personal fears have been stirred up in strictly religious lines, creating extreme animosities. There has been a nasty anti-Semiticism in Islam that has been growing louder in recent years, and 9/11 made "Muslim" synonymous with "terrorist" in the eyes of many Christians.