Why do people try to change Christianity?

[Dor]

Why do people try to change Christianity?

Seriously if people do not like Christianity why don't people just find another religion instead of trying to carve Christianity up to fit them?

Do people do it constantly to Islam and Judaism and I just do not see it?

I mean the Bible and Christ are about the only 2 things Christianity has right?
Well if people do not want to believe those then how can they even call themselves Christians?

Where would you draw the line on using that classification?

[BlaznFattyz]

because christ causes reaction in people and the spirit world.
there are those that desire to mislead people from jesus who is the way, the truth, and the life.

[kiwimac]

Because life is not stationary, it moves on and, sensibly, most folk agree that their religions of choice should too.

[Dor]

Originally Posted by kiwimac

Because life is not stationary, it moves on and, sensibly, most folk agree that their religions of choice should too.

Oh really I do not see alot of Jews tearing up the Torah or Muslims carving up parts of the Koran!

[BlaznFattyz]

i believe the hurdles we have to face as humans in changing religions is very great. we have invested culture, family, ideals into religion. many do not want to make the change to please people, but its not god they are pleasing.

[Francis king]

why should they not try to alter christianity? there are many ideas within christianity which modern men and women should recognise are NOT the holy words of God, but words written by men, kings and priests, centuries ago... we all know that the bible has been edited, altered, changed, parts removed, parts added, and debates have raged throughout christendom about the tenets we today hold so dear... jesus wasn't always a god, u know, they held a meeting to determine how he should be viewed... years ago, the virgin mary was thought by all christians to be the holy womb of god, yet again, the church popes held another meeting, and schisms formed in the overall church every time a new idea was bandied about by a few popes... hence the different types of christian, catholic, eastern orthodox, protestant, methodist, quaker, etc, etc...

I feel that there may well be jews and muslims who disagree with the teachings within their own traditions, for various reasons, yet maybe they keep quiet about it more than christians do, or there is more scope for interpretating scriptures in different ways... ? it would be interesting to find out, though...

[aburaees]

Originally Posted by Dor

Why do people try to change Christianity?

Seriously if people do not like Christianity why don't people just find another religion instead of trying to carve Christianity up to fit them?

Do people do it constantly to Islam and Judaism and I just do not see it?

I mean the Bible and Christ are about the only 2 things Christianity has right?
Well if people do not want to believe those then how can they even call themselves Christians?

Where would you draw the line on using that classification?

Islam is pretty well carved up too, try putting a Salafi, Sufi, and a Shiite in a room together.

I think with any religion you're going to get differences between individuals, and it's when the differences are dwelt upon that they become something more than what they started out as.

[pattimax]

Originally Posted by Francis king

why should they not try to alter christianity? there are many ideas within christianity which modern men and women should recognise are NOT the holy words of God, but words written by men, kings and priests, centuries ago... we all know that the bible has been edited, altered, changed, parts removed, parts added, and debates have raged throughout christendom about the tenets we today hold so dear... jesus wasn't always a god, u know, they held a meeting to determine how he should be viewed... years ago, the virgin mary was thought by all christians to be the holy womb of god, yet again, the church popes held another meeting, and schisms formed in the overall church every time a new idea was bandied about by a few popes... hence the different types of christian, catholic, eastern orthodox, protestant, methodist, quaker, etc, etc...

I feel that there may well be jews and muslims who disagree with the teachings within their own traditions, for various reasons, yet maybe they keep quiet about it more than christians do, or there is more scope for interpretating scriptures in different ways... ? it would be interesting to find out, though...

And where did you glean these little nuggets of pseudo-knowledge? I would truly like to research your facts.

[China Cat Sunflower]

Originally Posted by Dor

Why do people try to change Christianity?

Seriously if people do not like Christianity why don't people just find another religion instead of trying to carve Christianity up to fit them?

Do people do it constantly to Islam and Judaism and I just do not see it?

I mean the Bible and Christ are about the only 2 things Christianity has right?
Well if people do not want to believe those then how can they even call themselves Christians?

Where would you draw the line on using that classification?

How far back do you want to go? I guess one could practice some form of primitive Catholicism. If religion doen't evolve it becomes a gilded anachronism, which is what Christianity is at one level. But Christian theology has a rich history of contemplation and evolution. Same with Judaism, same with Islam. Of course most rank and file Christians aren't aware of the history or nature of that theological debate, but surely you realize that the form of Christianity practiced by Protestants, and Evangelicals in particular is a relatively recent adaptation. Why did you all want to change Christianity?

Chris

[Caimanson]

Originally Posted by China Cat Sunflower

Of course most rank and file Christians aren't aware of the history or nature of that theological debate, but surely you realize that the form of Christianity practiced by Protestants, and Evangelicals in particular is a relatively recent adaptation. Why did you all want to change Christianity?
Chris

You hit the spot there Chris.

Put yourself into a time machine, wind it back a good thousand years, and ask the same question again: why do people try to change Christianity?

[Dor]

Originally Posted by Caimanson

You hit the spot there Chris.

Put yourself into a time machine, wind it back a good thousand years, and ask the same question again: why do people try to change Christianity?

Hmmm 1000 yrs ago Christ was still God and the same books were in the Bible.
I do not see many problems for me.

[juantoo3]

Kindest Regards, Dor!

Originally Posted by Dor

Why do people try to change Christianity?

Seriously if people do not like Christianity why don't people just find another religion instead of trying to carve Christianity up to fit them?...

Where would you draw the line on using that classification?

Interesting question.

Of course, if we are going to be honest with this line of thought, shouldn't we carry back to the source? What was Christianity like say about 50 or 60 AD? Before the Protestant reformation, before the Catholic schisms, before the Council of Nicea that legalized the Christian faith in the pagan world of the Roman Empire, before the Gnostics and Aryans and heresies, before the destruction of the Jewish Temple at Jerusalem? What was Christianity like fresh out of the mouth of Jesus?

I don't think it was anything like it is today, in any denomination. But, that's just my opinion. My opinion doesn't count, G-d's opinion does count.

Maybe G-d forsaw all of this, and allows each of us a little leeway in accord with what we know and understand.

Or else, there's a whole lot of us in a heap of doo-doo. Pretty much everybody, I reckon, by this point in time.

[lunamoth]

Originally Posted by juantoo3

Of course, if we are going to be honest with this line of thought, shouldn't we carry back to the source? What was Christianity like say about 50 or 60 AD? Before the Protestant reformation, before the Catholic schisms, before the Council of Nicea that legalized the Christian faith in the pagan world of the Roman Empire, before the Gnostics and Aryans and heresies, before the destruction of the Jewish Temple at Jerusalem? What was Christianity like fresh out of the mouth of Jesus?

Excellent points. And like...before any of the Gospels or Paul's letters were written...

I think that you're right on two counts. No denomination today is exactly like it and I don't think God is going to fail us for doing things a bit differently today.

luna

[Dor]

Originally Posted by juantoo3

What was Christianity like fresh out of the mouth of Jesus?

Ok where are we going to figure out what that was? What do we have that can let us know what it was like then. No one to ask and no video tapes.

So all we have are some books and letters right?

[Faithfulservant]

Because they were deceived..