why does god punish flawed creatures that he made forever

[shadowman]

he made each and every one of us right? why is he letting us go through this insane world where we could end up lost and going to hell?


we suck at everything and have many flaws, why punish us for those flaws?

[Thomas]

D'you mean why should we be held responsible for our own faults?

Thomas

[Impqueen]

I think Sm is getting at the point - If God made man, he made us with all our flaws, so why then punish us for the flaws he made? Which is something I've wondered too...

[pattimax]

God corrects those he loves. (Similar to Jesus kissing.)

[Impqueen]

So those of us who are never 'corrected' aren't loved? But I thought the line was that he loves you, even if you don't know him.

I still don't understand why he would make us so flawed and then punish us. If it's so that we have the opportunity to learn and choose the right path, then why would he 'correct' some, but leave others to flounder and be damned?

[Faithfulservant]

Of course He loves you but do you love Him? Do you enter into that relationship with Him that He requires in order to be that close to you?? Ypu have to make the choice He wont make it for you.

[Impqueen]

The question isn't whether he loves me, it's

If God made man, he made us with all our flaws, so why then punish us for the flaws he made?

(Or at least, that was my interpretation of the question, which may not in fact be what SM was asking.)

[shadowman]

why does he have a point where he no longer will love you no matter what?
(after judgement)

[Postmaster]

Originally Posted by shadowman

he made each and every one of us right? why is he letting us go through this insane world where we could end up lost and going to hell?


we suck at everything and have many flaws, why punish us for those flaws?

I like to see it that every flawed human will fulfil his purpose, regardless how flawed or evil they are considered. It just so happens and thanking God for this, that there is a lot of people that have high standard of moral living and that be to there benefit and everyone else’s. As for the outcome of life, nobody knows, but we do assume.

[shadowman]

Originally Posted by Thomas

D'you mean why should we be held responsible for our own faults?

Thomas

yeah, why should we?

who benefits from eternally punishing us.

does god get benefit out of it?

do we?

whats the point of that.

[shadowman]

Originally Posted by Thomas

D'you mean why should we be held responsible for our own faults?

Thomas

meaning what?

what do you mean by held responsible...?

what are the faults?

[shadowman]

Originally Posted by Faithfulservant

Of course He loves you but do you love Him? Do you enter into that relationship with Him that He requires in order to be that close to you?? Ypu have to make the choice He wont make it for you.

his love is reasonably none-see-able by us until after we die. after we die, we would know if he is real or not and the choice would be simple.

[shadowman]

Originally Posted by Thomas

D'you mean why should we be held responsible for our own faults?

Thomas

by being punished for them?
forever?

whats the point of that.

[shadowman]

Originally Posted by Faithfulservant

Of course He loves you but do you love Him? Do you enter into that relationship with Him that He requires in order to be that close to you?? Ypu have to make the choice He wont make it for you.

why does he choose to punish all of us in the firstplace?

[shadowman]

how can it be

that my fellow driving by me

or walking past
in the store
at the bus stop
in my class
etc


that some of these people are going to be cast into a fiery furnace forever and ever?

how is this ok?

do humans matter?

arent we here just to glorify god?