Why evil if God is so great?

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Paladin

Sheesh, you would have thought I knew that... being Betazoid and all...

I thought you were half Betazoid, being empathic but not psychic and all...

v/r

Q

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by Faithfulservant

Q's a trekkie I love it

Trekker...trekkies are fanatics, trekkers simply appreciate.

v/r

Q

[Quahom1]

Originally Posted by hpet

God is so great that he loves mankind so much to give the freedom of choice


First we have to agree there exists pure evil in this world. If one does not agree no one can help that person see.

So why do some some suffer while others don't?


So basically when the other person rejoices, we are supposed to rejoice with that person and the same for suffering. It is because we do not realise all are in one body we have differences.

All points to this:

* Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your strength....
You need the spirit of the Lord to show love to your neighbour, even to the point of giving your life itself! The nature of human spirit cannot do that.

* Love your neighbour as yourself.

Then evil will be gone!

Thanks.

Welcome to CR Hpet

Interesting points you bring up. Very similar to what another member (Palidin) describes in another part of the CR forum.

It caused me to think of another metaphor, for lack of a better term, concerning the losing of a hand or a foot or an eye in order to enter Heaven rather that going to Hell, whole. I wonder if they are both refering to the same original concept of humanity?...

Weclome aboard!

v/r

Q

[rudiger]

Sin comes from one's own will,without one"s will there is no sin and no uniqeness in other words no difference.Thats why we must learn and tast the crambs to recieve the loaf, and thats why we are born in sin, meaning one"s free will.
Yes we are given the freedom of choice to choose our own will or in unity of Gods will through Christ Jesus, making two paths to choose from


THE DEVIL HAS TRIED TO GREAT HIMSELF IN HIS OWN IMAGE, IN OPPOSING GOD ALMIGHTY PRINCIPLE RULE;

1 DECEPTIONOF THE ETERNAL MEANING OF GOD.

2 LIESOF THE RECONCILIATION THE WORD OF ETERNAL GOD ALMIGHTY THROUGH HIS CHRIST JESUS OUR LORD.

3 THEFTOF THE CREATION THROUGH THE RECONCILIATION OF THE ETERNAL MEANING OF GOD ALMIGHTY.

4 SLANDERINGOF THE TEACHING BY HOLY SPIRIT THROUGH THE RECONCILIATION OF THE ETERNAL MEANING OF GOD ALMIGHTY.

5 HATE / MURDEROUS OF THE GUIDANCE BY HOLY SPIRIT THROUGH RECONCILIATION OF THE ETERNAL MEANING OF GOD ALMIGHTY.

6 DOMINATIONOF THE CHOICE.

7 SELF IMAGE OF THE DESTINATION .

[Cordoba]

God created angels in such a way that they can only obey Him. They can't disobey. They are creatures of light without free will.

According to the Qur'an, God introduced free will to two types only of His creation: the jinn (creatures made of fire), and the human race.

Satan, according to the Qur'an was a jinn, not an angel. God commanded him to prostrate to Adam, but he refused, as he thought that he was better than Adam. For this he was cursed by God, and to take his revenge he promised he would misguide as many humans as he could.

As humans have free will, by definition we have the freedom to choose between good and evil. If there were no evil, how could we choose and apply our free will.

Originally Posted by Postmaster

if God is so great why is there pain Evil and suffering?

This question is answered from a Muslim perspective, if of interest, on this page:

http://www.islamonline.net/fatwa/eng...hFatwaID=50801

[kabbalah]

Kabbalists tell us that the Creator created everything that exists with one simple thought: to delight the created beings. So he creates a vessel to receive pleasure, the vessel is 100% egoistic, it only wants to receive, and the Creator is 100% altruistic, only wanting to give. The vessel is created and receives pleasure, until it senses the Creator. Once the Creator is sensed, the creature senses that it is completely opposite to the Creator, he only gives and I only receive. The creature wants to give but has nothing to give, however this is still egoistic, it wants to give in order to stop the feeling of shame. Then the creature eventually feels so much shame at only receiving that the decision is made to stop receiving the Light of the Creator. Then the universal soul of Adam is split into many souls which are incarnated into bodies of this world where with the wisdom of Kabbalah, they can eventually learn to receive the light with the sole intention of bringing contentment to their maker. The "evil inclination" is the desire to receive, it was created so that the created beings could independently choose alruism. You may think you have free will, but according to Kabbalah, you are only a puppet on a string, controlled by the Creator until you go above your overcome the desire to receive. The Creator does all the work, he creates the desire to receive, and then transforms it into the will to bestow, our only free will is to agree with the Creator. The kabbalistic interpretation to the Bible suggests that the pharoah is the desire to receive for yourself, if you see that everything you do is 100% selfish, but that you have no free will in it, that the Creator forced you to be enslaved by pharoah, then you can cry out to him to free you from slavery and instill in you the desire to bestow. Your only free choice is to agree with everything the creator does and beg for to be freed from the rule of pharoah.

[PersonaNonGrata]

In order to understand the goodness
thats what I have been told by i-brian's avatar, think about it, let the sinless one throw the first stone,

I just give kabbalah, isnt it something good?

[Flutter_Fli]

I believe there is evil because there has to be. If people did not know evil how would they know goodness? How would you know light if you only saw the dark? How would you know love if you didn't know hate? There is a balance, a very fine lined balance. You can not have one without the other...male-female,
life-death...etc.