Why Was Paul's Teaching More Acceptable? - Page 3

Quahom1 · 11-07-2007, 01:21 AM

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In Michigan, it is specifically illegal (written into the constitution, in fact) for one of us to cover another; something the "Good Christians" pushed through. Your rant about how insurance companies would be "bankrupted" was irrationally far from any reality, and the intensity of your rant exposed the intensity of your hatred.

I remember that too. Infact it was not only the Christian populace, but the Jewish populace as well as Dearborn/Detroit's Muslim populace as well as the majority of the rest of the citizenry that voted that way.

As far as the insurance companies not being able to handle the onslaught of people co-insuring others...yes it would bankrupt the companies. Or else they would pull out of the state.

So, it boiled down to, vote for all to be covered (in which none would be covered, because there would be no insurance companies honoring the state), or keep the status quo for the majority of the populace...

edit: Mayhap the next president will push for "insurance" that covers all people (but it will be government insurance). But then the majority have to vote on that as well.

I don't hate anyone. You?

One more thing: As I recall for anyone to cover another with their insurance, that covered person has to be declared a "dependent", upon the one doing the insuring (which means the one has to provide for over 50 percent of the other's sustenance, and be legally a dependent). I know this because I was able to do it with my nephew by marriage. In short, one must legally become a "ward" of another.

Maybe I just gave you a "loop hole" to explore...

bob x · 11-07-2007, 02:14 AM

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Infact it was not only the Christian populace, but the Jewish populace as well as Dearborn/Detroit's Muslim populace as well as the majority of the rest of the citizenry that voted that way.

The Muslims, of course, are worse than the Christians, but no, there was no significant support among the Jews, nor among non-believers. All the money came from two sources: the "Family" put up about half, and the Catholic archdiocese the rest. The "Family" was responsible for the the deceitful advertising, specifically denying that they had any intention to take away people's insurance, or to do anything except "save marriage"; and also for the immediate lawsuits, to make sure that our insurance was taken away.

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As far as the insurance companies not being able to handle the onslaught of people co-insuring others...yes it would bankrupt the companies.

Domestic partnership insurance exists in numerous states. No insurance company has remotely been threatened by bankruptcy. We are not a very big percentage of the population, you know. You are making up nonsense out of nothing, because you will say, and do, ANYTHING, anything at all, as long as it does us injury.

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I don't hate anyone.

You don't CALL it "hate". Fine, you can call it or not call it whatever you want. You do me injury, for no cause, that is what I call "hate".

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One more thing: As I recall for anyone to cover another with their insurance, that covered person has to be declared a "dependent",

In Michigan, where a same-sex couple is involved, it does not matter in the least who is or is not dependent: the initial lawsuit was aimed at taking away insurance from the children raised by a lesbian couple, on grounds that recognizing those children as anything other than legal strangers to the one who was not the biological "mother" would be acknowledging something like a marriage.

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In short, one must legally become a "ward" of another.

That is specifically against the law in Michigan where same-sex couples are involved, same reasoning.

cyberpi · 11-07-2007, 02:29 AM

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I don't hate anyone. You?

I'd let your victims be the ones to judge that.

Quahom1 · 11-07-2007, 04:12 AM

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I'd let your victims be the ones to judge that.

Victims? lol

bob x · 11-07-2007, 06:06 AM

It's not so funny at the sharp end of the stick.

Quahom1 · 11-07-2007, 06:45 PM

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I'd let your victims be the ones to judge that.

Show me my "victims" and the crimes I've comitted again' them.

Quahom1 · 11-07-2007, 06:52 PM

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It's not so funny at the sharp end of the stick.

I think you meant "bayonet"...
Where I come from we don't use them. We know how, but it isn't our style. We prefer to save lives... in fact we're pretty good at it (about 1.2 million confirmed to date).

semper paratus

bob x · 11-07-2007, 08:00 PM

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We prefer to save lives...

Except for mine, of course. Me, you would rather find excuses to leave to die.

Quahom1 · 11-07-2007, 09:07 PM

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Except for mine, of course. Me, you would rather find excuses to leave to die.

If what you are implying is that because you think differently about amourous issues, I think you should be cast off...then you are a fool.

I have family in the same boat, as you imply you are in. That's where me and my family step in, as we still take care of our own, because we love them, where the gov't will not...

So, pack it, Bob.

wil · 11-07-2007, 09:50 PM

A friendly reminder that this is the board that discusses thoughts about a guy who said things like "Love your neighbor as yourself" and "Forgive 7 x 70"

Didn't Paul the topic of this thread say "Let the mind of Christ be in you"?

Just wondering if we can all consider this for a minute.

Quahom1 · 11-07-2007, 10:34 PM

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A friendly reminder that this is the board that discusses thoughts about a guy who said things like "Love your neighbor as yourself" and "Forgive 7 x 70"

Didn't Paul the topic of this thread say "Let the mind of Christ be in you"?

Just wondering if we can all consider this for a minute.

...admonish the foolish, and let them take note... (or something like that). I get tired of people telling Christians what asses they are, when they don't know their own ass from a hole in the ground, Wil.

Stuff right out there in front of them for assistance, and they ignore it because they want to punish...someone...pisses me off.

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cyberpi · 11-07-2007, 11:27 PM

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Show me my "victims" and the crimes I've comitted again' them.

I would probably start with an ex-wife. I'm not your victim yet... seek your victims to show you.

Quahom1 · 11-07-2007, 11:36 PM

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I would probably start with an ex-wife. I'm not your victim yet... seek your victims to show you.

Yours...or mine? Be very carefull Cy...I will not tolerate anything less...

...because now you have gotten personal...

cyberpi · 11-08-2007, 12:01 AM

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Yours...or mine? Be very carefull Cy...I will not tolerate anything less...

...because now you have gotten personal...

I answered your request by directing you to seek your own personal life to learn if you truly hate nobody. I am advising you to seek your answers or justification there.

If I have an ex-wife it is from a prior life, but if it softens your pride: I surely have victims too.

Quahom1 · 11-08-2007, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by cyberpi

I answered your request by directing you to seek your own personal life to learn if you truly hate nobody. Seek your answers or justification there.

If I have an ex-wife it is from a prior life, but if it softens your pride: I surely have victims too.

YOU BECAME RUDE. NOW, YOU have my ATTENTION. My FULL ATTENTION. Do you understand that?

If you don't , then by your own reconing, your statements are mute, because you do not practice what you preach as far as peace among men...check mate...

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