witchcraft

[darkangel349]

Lucid dreaming i have quite a good understanding of, seeing most of my dreams are lucid dreaming. although i just have to learn to enduce them easier

[Blackrose]

Originally Posted by darkangel349

Lucid dreaming i have quite a good understanding of, seeing most of my dreams are lucid dreaming. although i just have to learn to enduce them easier

Good, then you should be able to learn to work in the dream state fairly easily. I'll admit, I still have some trouble with this. It has only been recently that I learned of working in the dream state.

Yet, for witchcraft to actually be anything more than play acting a trance state is required. I feel the dream state is best. I have for sometime though been able to enter peoples dreams, with some effort.

One can study all they want and it is no subsitute for actual practice. Experience is always the best teacher. Practice, experment and learn to follow your intuition. I feel this is the best advice I can give you.

[Blackrose]

I thought maybe this might be of some help to you. It is an extact from an interview with the late Andrew Chumbley.

If any aspire to this kind of spirit-relation and wish to gain knowledge of dreaming, let them go out walking by day – away from the company of men, out into the fields of their locality. Conscious of their step upon the land, let them ask for a sign or token. If the spirits of the place find you acceptable, an object or omen may be revealed.

For example, you might see a white stag, a black dog, a magpie, or find a hagstone, a gnarled root, a fallen antler or a snake-slough. Fixate your perception at every opportunity on this object and ask the spirits to open the way for you. When falling into sleep, hold the object in attention and again entreat the spirits. By letting awareness wander in the onset of dreaming, but at the same time tethering consciousness to the talismanic object, a ‘scope’ of receptivity is established – a field wherein new ‘wanderings’ may transpire. If you may walk knowingly in the fields of night, again entreat the spirits and, if they accept you in dreaming, a way shall be revealed. Here I point my hand toward the circle’s edge of this matter, but in so doing I trust in the Wards
to test all who would approach. A wise gardener once said to me: ‘A true secret casts no shadow’. In this matter, even the secret’s telling holds its shadow beyond sight.

This is something that I, myself, am working upon. It takes a bit on time and work, but in the end I feel the results will be well worth the effort.

[RubySera_Martin]

Black Rose, I read the quote from Andrew Chumbley. Is it possible that some of this is natural for some people?

[path_of_one]

I think lucid dreaming is natural for some people. I've done it since I was a little girl- it's my normal dream state. I actually can retain part of my brain as very much awake as I fall asleep- I know that the rest of me is entering dream, and once there, I can alter the dream. Some things are easier to alter than others for me.

I've had dreams that were deeply meaningful spiritually, but they are not lucid dreams like my usual ones. They happen about once every five years or so and are quite different, though I am aware I am still dreaming, I cannot change the dream. I can only accept the invitation or decline.

The rest are often symbolic and interesting, but not visionary.

I've never bothered to try to enhance any of it. I guess I just feel like when I'm meant to receive a message, it will come. It's up to me to just be receptive.

Then again, I don't practice witchcraft so I'm not sure how it works or fits together there. I do practice Druidry, but there are so many varieties of Druidry, and even more broadly, witchcraft, magic, and neo-Paganism, that it's tough to know how much the beliefs and practices overlap.

[gwenwifar23]

My foremost teacher in teutonic witchcraft and magic was and is Andreas Firewolf. His english site is not up to date and small. For those who can read dutch, there is a gigantic website about spirituality, shamanism, teutonic witchcraft, rune-magic, etc. He wrote over 14 books and published allmost 200 CD's with instructions. His main course is Yggdrasil®, 12 parts with four CD's with each part, two TRANCE-FORMATIONS (guided visualisations) on each CD. In 96 trips you are guided through the tree of worlds and you learn to communicate with the gods and goddesses of the ancient teutons.
See:
http://www.andreas333.com

[Blackrose]

Originally Posted by RubySera_Martin

Black Rose, I read the quote from Andrew Chumbley. Is it possible that some of this is natural for some people?

Yes, I think it is quite possible that much of this come quite natural to some people. Then there are others who have to work very hard to develope the gifts. Then again I have met some the just could not do any of it no matter how hard thet tried. Maybe they tried to hard, I don't know.