Yoga ?

[Mirko]

Originally Posted by GlorytoGod

There is no spiritual aspect to weight lifting ? Pilates I dont think so but I have never done it so I could be wrong on that.

Originally Posted by GlorytoGod

I would say is hatha yoga is unsuitable for Christians for these reasons

Kundalini, the coiled serpent of energy at the base of the spine, the practice of hatha yoga opens various energy centres in your body causing this energy to rise,

if that is what you chose to practice, believe it is possible, believe exact configurations detailed in the vedas to be descriptions of somethig that exists in reality and not relative explanations that differ in many cultures, and are attempting to achieve that

Originally Posted by GlorytoGod

and these chakra allegedly relate to specific hindu gods.

allegedly yes, as it is a hindu concept, similar concepts are found other asian cultures and most do not relate to any god, still in hinduism most things can be sayd to relate to one god or another, but chacras mostly relate to the what in hindu tradition is called the "subtle body"

Originally Posted by GlorytoGod

Salute to the sun, sun worship idolatry.

would you be more comfortable if it was called "Hello Jesus" or "Praise to God"

Originally Posted by GlorytoGod

If you are comfortable with all of that, then thats your choice. But for me I dont think I will ever practice yoga again. My body is a temple for the Holy Spirit not kundalini

well if you believe in such a thing as the kundalini and know something about it than you can probbably assume, based on what you believe and know, that it already is part or potential of you, weather you want it or not, as it is believed to be a part of what is called the "subtle body" that can be "awakened" by specific practices
if you or anyone know something more on this please correct me

again if you do not believe you have such a part that could be called a subtle body, or believe the vedic concept of it is not factual, then why worry about things like kundalini, chacras or hindu gods?
so do you believe in chacras and the subtle body?


and that part on demonic origins really deserves an answer, i mean you stated it, now at least elaborate

[seattlegal]

Originally Posted by Mirko

if that is what you chose to practice, believe it is possible, believe exact configurations detailed in the vedas to be descriptions of somethig that exists in reality and not relative explanations that differ in many cultures, and are attempting to achieve that



allegedly yes, as it is a hindu concept, similar concepts are found other asian cultures and most do not relate to any god, still in hinduism most things can be sayd to relate to one god or another, but chacras mostly relate to the what in hindu tradition is called the "subtle body"



would you be more comfortable if it was called "Hello Jesus" or "Praise to God"



well if you believe in such a thing as the kundalini and know something about it than you can probbably assume, based on what you believe and know, that it already is part or potential of you, weather you want it or not, as it is believed to be a part of what is called the "subtle body" that can be "awakened" by specific practices
if you or anyone know something more on this please correct me

again if you do not believe you have such a part that could be called a subtle body, or believe the vedic concept of it is not factual, then why worry about things like kundalini, chacras or hindu gods?
so do you believe in chacras and the subtle body?


and that part on demonic origins really deserves an answer, i mean you stated it, now at least elaborate

Hi, Mirko. I suspect that what GlorytoGod is saying about the demonic origins would go back to Galatians chapter 5, which I included in post #18 of this thread, regarding the works of the flesh being contrary to the fruits of the Spirit. (I guess GlorytoGod might be associating kundalini with the flesh, rather than the Spirit.)

[Mirko]

Originally Posted by seattlegal

Hi, Mirko. I suspect that what GlorytoGod is saying about the demonic origins would go back to Galatians chapter 5, which I included in post #18 of this thread, regarding the works of the flesh being contrary to the fruits of the Spirit. (I guess GlorytoGod might be associating kundalini with the flesh, rather than the Spirit.)

perhaps, i understand what you mean on kundalini, but statement on demonic origin was directly about "eastern martial arts", as broad as that term might be
specifically it was answering a post mentioning karate
now i cannot say i am an expert on martial arts of any kind, i know as much as anyone with aces to google and documentary programs on public television, and know a few people who train regurarly, albeit in different kinds of martial arts that by now have little to do with what is generally called "eastern" other than name derivatives
still it seems to me obvious most martial arts, especially the traditional versions, tend to emphasize self-control, peace and general stability of mind and body, often ascetism and respect of others
many even stress the need to avoid violence in any way possible, even if the technique itself is obviously violent
this is especially tipical of the best known "eastern" martial arts, by vich people usually mean the various derivations of Japanese Korean and Chinese traditions

i have not heard of any traditional school of martial arts, anywhere, especially in east Asia, the teachings of which could come even close to what is described in Galatians chapter 5 as "works of the flesh"
maybe some new schools and practices are different, i dont know i havent trained in them

so as i say i am no expert, but a statement like "...many eastern martial arts are demonic in origin and therefore unsuitable and incompatible with christianity." really merits some elaboration
i mean who knows, maybe there is some east asian martial arts school that founds its teachings on superstition about demons and devils, so giving that information would be interesting, an we might learn something new
if not then making such statements should at least be argumented by some explanation or quote
because it is not a small thing really, when you think about it, to say an important part of several well known world cultures, is not only unsiutable for christians, but also demonic in origin no less

without valid explanation, this makes for a premise which can then be used as a template in the relations between "christians" and how many world cultures and practices
i mean is the carnival or fašnik demonic in origin? or acupuncture? or central African traditional sculpture? or German industrial metal? or south Slavic folk dance? by what standard is the clasification made?

[seattlegal]

Originally Posted by Mirko

so as i say i am no expert, but a statement like "...many eastern martial arts are demonic in origin and therefore unsuitable and incompatible with christianity." really merits some elaboration.

Fair enough, Mirko.