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Old 07-27-2007, 10:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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What constitutes a "person" ?

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Old 07-27-2007, 10:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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ummm....a few trillion cells designed originally to have opposing thumbs, walk on two legs, think for itself and others, and replicate...

and contemplate why am I here...

and argue that they are right...and you are wrong

and take whatever isn't bolted down...and say mine.

unless someone bigger, or some bigger group, creates reasons otherwise.
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Me thinks....
A pattern of thoughts that thinks it has an individual existance......

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I don't know, you've confused me now
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Old 07-28-2007, 12:57 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Have you considered something analogous to a specific Inertial Frame of Reference in the context of Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity? (Some consequences of which would seem to go against common sense, but have been experimentally verified.)
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Old 07-28-2007, 01:49 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Water! de constituted we are dont amount to a lot.
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IMHO, a person is a closed physical system intended to circulate energy inputs through the use of flesh and mind/soul. It must seek out renewable energy intputs, utilize them effectively for its operations, and efficiently eliminate its waste by-products in order to continue in time until its programmed end time is reached. However, a person is also designed and is self-operated in ways to automatically self-organize and unite with other and diverse persons over its lifetime in ways that enhance the social combinations and structures that it chooses to enter into, with the intent of allowing personhood, in general, to continue on in time past an individual person's demise.

A bit technical, but the way that I see things.


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A person is a person first. A body which one can see (with eyes which a person has) or perhaps if the person is blind they could touch the person's body... But around and through the physical body are other wider dimensions which connect the body to other persons.

The person is also a collection of the thoughts the person may have,which they may try to think of something new to change and become a different person. This is sometimes hard.

The person also needs fuel. It generally works better if the fuel is high octane without additives and preservatives and nasty things.

Good fuel for the body, mind and soul

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I think I am a blend of biological substance, self producing energy and spirit (which is undefinabe). Roll them all together and you get a very complex, yet simple individual.
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Have you considered something analogous to a specific Inertial Frame of Reference in the context of Einstein's Special Theory of Relativity? (Some consequences of which would seem to go against common sense, but have been experimentally verified.)
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Strangely, no I haven't! The links look kind of vast, care to sum the notion up in one snappy paragraph?

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I think I am a blend of biological substance, self producing energy and spirit (which is undefinabe). Roll them all together and you get a very complex, yet simple individual.
Has the confusion passed then?

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No not really, I am still complex and simple. The paradox is driving me nuts.
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"Not one, not two."

- Shunryu Suzuki.

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The simple being one; the complex being two.

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OMG I am three people now. Well I wish one of us would stop eating chocolate and hogging the tv remote.
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