Your average conspiracy theorist.

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by path_of_one

so you can wind up with pointless passionate conversation... similar to bad religious debate.

Thank.......erm.....goodness(!) we dont have any of that round here!!

I agree with everything you say but I would hazard a guess that many of the people who go to the effort of researching and compiling all this information are not really of the common herd. They care that we are being deceived, being sold a lie that costs the lives of not just the people who died on 9/11, but all the people who have died in Afghanistan and Iraq too. That said I concede you can also get too close and become blind to what is or is not quality evidence. Its a tightrope for the enquiring mind. But surely we have to agree that if there were no such enquiry our society would be composed only of 'sheeple' and that is not a world I want to live in.

As a footnote, over here we call BMW's "Black Man Willy", says it all...you use same expression over the pond?

Tao

[Faithfulservant]

thats what I thought.....

[Tao_Equus]

You know I said above that I found it difficult to believe that those in power could ever sanction 9/11 as it would hurt too many Americans. But thats just bad thinking. Look what the US has done to your own troops. 350,000 permanently disabled since the onset of the first Gulf War. Not by the opposition military but by the cocktail of chemicals and depleted uranium they were exposed to. From procurement records we know 3750 tons of depleted uranium has been vaporised into the environment of Iraq and Afghanistan and the troops were told it is perfectly safe. But at least these guys can come home. The local populations now have that in their ecosystems for ever. And the effects are already striking. (see images). Bush went to war citing weapons of mass destruction. But the truth is the only people in possession of them were the allied attackers. But the official line on Gulf War syndrome both in the US and here is "it's in their imaginations". The veterans are left to rot. So can they pull off 9/11.... of course they can.

[path_of_one]

That is what happened when we tested the atomic bombs during WWII on our own territories. Horrific birth defects for generations. Everything was irradiated and they left those people to ingest that radiation and then studied the effects on them. These were our own people.

When I first read about that part of US history in college- the part no one's public education school textbook tells you, I sobbed for all those little lives who died, often painfully, because our government decided to experiment on them. And no, this isn't conspiracy theory. It's well-published scientific fact in ordinary books put out by academic presses.

People in this nation get up in arms about abortion, but don't even begin to look at the violence and death our own government has perpetuated against children- children in our own nation and children abroad. Children are the biggest "collateral damage" in war statistically. And does it matter where children live? A life is a life and it is valuable. Yet somehow so many people think it is worth slaughtering innocent lives for this or that war. I just don't get it. All I see is the pain it causes families.

And Tao, I was not saying that the facts don't matter, but rather that what changes things is not the facts... it is turning the sheeple from one mode of action to another. Revolutions are typically not because everyone becomes enlightened rational thinkers. It is because a few rational thinkers have a vision and manage to harness the masses...

[Tao_Equus]

Back to JFK.... I watched this last night and the relationships it tells of are matched by what I have found already. It is 90 mins long but worth watching.

Bush Link to Kennedy Assassination Alex Jones 911 Conspiracy