YOUR favourite conspiracy theory!!

[Pathless]

Originally Posted by Tao_Equus

Because we all know our Goverments do and Walt Disney

But seriously, I looked at some of the 9/11 stuff. There are a lot of questions regarding that event that remain a mystery. And truth is so often stranger than any fiction. I would not dismiss the idea that a certain group of Godless, (tho they might publicly pay lip service), power and profit motivated individuals were aware of the plot and if not encourage its initiation turned a blind eye to suit their designs. As for an actual conspiracy... well I do not know.

This is a good video. And here's a related article. There's a lot of information floating around out there that makes 9/11 seem reeeaaaallly fishy, folks.

Corruption, corruption, corruption.

[Friend]

Originally Posted by Pathless

This is a good video. And here's a related article. There's a lot of information floating around out there that makes 9/11 seem reeeaaaallly fishy, folks.

Corruption, corruption, corruption.

Thanks

Realy thanks

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by Pathless

This is a good video. And here's a related article. There's a lot of information floating around out there that makes 9/11 seem reeeaaaallly fishy, folks.

Corruption, corruption, corruption.

Thank you Pathless.

I just spent close to 5 hours watching these films and many more and reading the articles on the matter. As well as taking a detour or 3 into particular background info.

Conclusion? Well I am now more or less entirely convinced that World Trade buildings 1, 2 and 7 were 'demolished' by controlled explosions. Infact no rational person can deny it when they see the footage of the staged series of explosions that are absolutely the hallmark of any controlled demolision of a tower.

There are so many threads of complicity that emerge from this attrocity that it becomes difficult to know where to begin. George W Bush's brothers involvement in the security company responsible for the WTC and Dulles Airport is perhaps a good place to begin. It seems very likely it is through the cover of that company that the explosives were put in place.

Osama Bin Laden has never been caught. Maybe thats part of the deal. This ex CIA stooge is perhaps not 'ex' at all. Especially given that the Bin Laden business associates of the Bush family were enjoying Bush hospitality in the US on 9/11.The Michael Moore film made it clear that the only autherised flights in the 24 hrs following 9/11 were to allow the Bin Ladens to leave the US. Could it be that Osama is in fact a deeply imbedded agent who as part of this plot orchestrated and trained the hijackers of these planes as part of a larger strategy.

I need to do more research into exactly who Larry Silverstein and the history of his connections. This guy buys the leasing rights for the WTC on a 99year lease from the New York Port Authority for $16million!! And a few short weeks afterward the on 9/11 sees a return of 9billion dollars in insurance compensation. Insurance he appears to have had very specificly tailored to cover every aspect of what was about to transpire.

There are a lot of Jewish names linked to the Bush presidancy and to the companies who have benefitted from this subsequent 'war on terrorism'. Of course making any such statement leads to cries of anti-semite. But it seems some 120+ Israeli state 'spies' were extremely active in monitoring both US military/intelligence and the hijackers in the weeks leading up to 9/11. Very strange. It seems they knew what was going down and were watching very closely. Reports of a 2hr warning being recieved by certain Israelis using an Israeli paging system in the twin towers have apparently been verified as fact. How could this be?

The large number of Jewish surnamed individuals linked to this event, to Bush's war on terror, and the companies making billions on the back of it is undeniable. And there is undoubtably vast evidence for Anti-semetic individuals and groups to put forth a very strong argument of a Zionist conspiracy. But the intersting thing is Bush himself, or rather his family background. I always thought the way George W Bush waves at a crowd to be more like a nazi salute than a wave. Till today I had found it just a mild curiosity. But finding that the Bush family fortune was made in laundering Nazi money in the US changes that.

Seems Prescot Bush, George W's Grandfather, was a director on the board of Hamburg American, Brown Brothers Harriman and Union Bank Corp. Hamburg American the shipping company used to bring Nazi money to the US which was then laundered through the other 2 companies. Not only that but Prescot Bush was not only a Nazi sympathiser but was instrumental in orchastrating a failed coup attempt to bring Nazi style political control to the US.

Given this profusion of Jews and a Nazi as their 'facilitator' its all rather confusing. I have a lot lot more digging to do on this subject.

TE

[Dondi]

TE,

You might consider looking into sites that debunk these theories as a matter of balance. A good started place:

Journal Of Debunking  9/11 Conspiracy Theories

Regards,

Dondi

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by Dondi

TE,

You might consider looking into sites that debunk these theories as a matter of balance. A good started place:

Journal Of Debunking 9/11 Conspiracy Theories

Regards,

Dondi

Thanks Dondi, I'm looking.

TE

[Tao_Equus]

Ok Dondi this is my first response to the site you pointed me at and, as my primary goal is to establish the veracity of demolition claims, I went first to the Brent Blanchard report.

Well Brent Blanchard calls himself a scientist working for a company called Protec. Here is a client list of Protec: Protec Documentation Services

If you look at it you will see that they are contractors for both Bechtel Infrastructure Corp and the US Army Corps of Engineers. In case you dont know Bechtel has a very cosy relationship with the White House not just now but for over 30 years. In addition to which they also have extensive business ties with the Bin Laden family.

Former and Current Executives

• Riley P. Bechtel is the CEO of Bechtel. With a net worth of $3.2 billion, he is the 50th richest person in the U.S. and the 127th richest in the world. In February 2003, he was appointed by President George W. Bush to the Export Council, which advises the president on international trade issues. He served for one year.
• George P. Shultz is the former U.S. Secretary of State under Ronald Reagan, former president of Bechtel, and a former Bechtel director. He is a former member of the board of Dillon, Read & Co. Inc. He also serves on the Committee for the Liberation of Iraq.
• The late Caspar Weinberger served as the United States Secretary of Defense under Ronald Reagan. Prior to holding this position, Weinberger was the Vice President, Director, and General Counsel of the Bechtel Group of companies.
• Gen. John J. Sheehan, USMC (ret.) is the former NATO Supreme Allied Commander, Atlantic and the former Special Advisor to Asia for the U.S. Defense Department and the former General Manager of the Petroleum and Chemical Business Unit for Europe/Africa/Middle East/South West Asia and was also a Bechtel partner. He was also a member of the Defense Policy Board.
• Ross J. Connelly is the former CEO of Bechtel Energy Resources Corporation. He currently serves on the Overseas Private Investment Corporation under George W. Bush.
• W. Kenneth Davis is a former Bechtel senior vice-president and is the former U.S. Deputy Energy Secretary.

And if anybody was going to carry out the controlled demolision of WTC 1,2 and 7 it would be the US Army Corps of Engineers.


Despite this I went ahead and read what Blanchard had to say. What I found was systematic efforts to rubbish the conspiracy claims without the presentation of any corroboratory evidence. He repeatedly uses the mantra 'unscientific' to claim superior highground in every point he tries to debunk but many of his own arguments run contrary to that contained in Final Report of the National Construction Safety Team
on the Collapses of the World Trade Center Towers

To keep this breif, I feel even more certain that the conspiracy theorists are speaking the truth when I find out that the debunkers are employees of those most likely to be responsible for 9/11.

TE

[flowperson]

Hi Guys...I've read through most of this stuff elsewhere and it seems believable. Obviously something is going on behind the scenes that wouldn't make sense in light of conventional information and wisdom. But then that was also apparent with the Lincoln, JFK, RFK, and MLK assassinations I believe, and they're dead issues these days.(not a pun)

Other questions are also apparent. Why was all of he scrap steeel from the structures almost immediately sent to India for melting and reprocessing ? What happened to the $12-13 billion in gold bullion that was housed in the sub-basements of the towers which was used to consummate international trade deal settlements.

There's more, but I've not got the time or money to pursue the issues further. It's obvious to me that the whole thing smells cheesey...but secrets are secrets and we all are forced to live with them. It's pretty much been that way in the USA since 1947 when the CIA came into being, and we're all still walking around, breathing, and getting more obese.

I know...let's blame it all on the media ! It's all Rupert's and Conrad's fault !

flow....

[Tao_Equus]

Hi Flo,

..but secrets are secrets and we all are forced to live with them.

Except all the victims of 9/11 who died that day and the 100's of 1000's more victims that have died in Afghanastan and Iraq in the response to the event. None of them have the luxury of 'living with them'.

Before today I only ever took a passing glance at this conspiracy theory. I think the reason for that was because I had a preconception that no President would mount something of this magnitude in his own country. But the more I look the more I am convinced. And what does it say about any society, should it be true, that we know it but will look the other way.

Dondi pointed me to the theory debunkers. And what do I find but the lackies of the prime suspects. In one day I have seen sufficient evidence for a full scale criminal investigation into 9/11. I want to live in a society where this investigation happens.

The steel from the WTC buildings was all shipped off to China within a couple of months. It was not tested for explosives traces. An unbelievable fact given that this was evidence for a crime scene. A few peices that were kept for the memorial were however tested and showed traces of the explosive Thermite and traces of Barium. This is a powerful high-heat explosive and consistant with the subsequent pools of molten steel that burned for up to six weeks after 9/11. It is also a long used material of the US Army Corps of Engineers. Infact the US army has been using it since at least WW2.

TE

[Sunny C.]

There are a number of questions about the events of 9-11 which continue to trouble me. But beyond that, I would like to know what the real reasons for invading Iraq were.

I've read the PNAC report. Recently I reread The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion. Now, before anyone jumps on me...I know that the Protocols was a fraud. But if you read it in light of what the Bush administration has been doing it's almost scary. It's like they're using it as a play book. Weird.

[Tao_Equus]

Originally Posted by Sunny C.

There are a number of questions about the events of 9-11 which continue to trouble me. But beyond that, I would like to know what the real reasons for invading Iraq were.

My personal thoughts are that it is a double barrelled robbery. One barrell robs the american taxpayer by giving supply contracts to Bush freindly corporations in order to deploy and maintain the US war machine. The other systamaticly bleeds Iraq of its substantial oil reserves in order to finance reconstruction of the destruction caused by the first and uses the same Bush freindly corporations. There is absolutely no political or moral motive in there. It is solely profit driven. This has been obvious to me since the outset. Even before the Invasion the Cheif UN Weapons Inspector was categorical that Iraq had no WMD and political analysts were unanimous in saying Sadam had no links to Al Quida. The 2 reasons cited for invasion were openly bogus and obviously bogus to anyone picking up a newspaper.

But until now, because as I said I had not looked closely, I never imagined that Bush/affiliates would do something so outrageous as to be behind 9/11. The closer you look tho the more convincing the conspiracist theory becomes. Especially when you look at the particular individuals connected to the event. And those who have profited. That the debunking is orchestrated by employees of those under suspicion while claiming 'scientific' independence and neutrality is itself cuase for suspicion. It is terrible that our mass media is under the iron grip of these crazy butchers, otherwise we would long ago had mass revolts baying for justice.

TE

[wil]

It has bee previously calculated how many american deaths at the time were needed in order to entice us back into another overseas war....

Ever looked into why when we couldn't get the US off the Monroe Doctrine after WWI we moved our entire Pacific Fleet to an idefencible base on a territory (not state) called Hawaii? Or that the Admiral of that fleet refused and he was told to either move them from their safe west coast harbors and bases...or look for another job.

Or how hour's later...McCarther was caught with his pants down at Okinawa?

How about Oklahoma....do you remember the two police sketches of the 'middle easterners' that were thrown around the news stations for the first two days? Or the former general a demoltions expert who said if I could take down a builidng with a truck bomb I wasted my entire career? Or the morning of the bombing the rescuers continually being stopped and evacuated as they discovered and disarmed more bombs interior? Or the fact that all the WACO material was coming to trial and all was housed in that building...and lost? Or columns that looked to have been broken like a typical building implosion technique? Or the debris on top of taller building across the street in the opposite direction of the truck blast?

Inquiring minds want to know....

[Dondi]

Or that Paris Hilton's jail sentence could be reduced from 45 days to 23?

I'm with ya, will. Something ominous is going on here.

[wil]

Originally Posted by Dondi

Or that Paris Hilton's jail sentence could be reduced from 45 days to 23?

maybe she has an agreement for good behaviour...

[Pathless]

Originally Posted by Dondi

Or that Paris Hilton's jail sentence could be reduced from 45 days to 23?

I'm with ya, will. Something ominous is going on here.

But this Paris Hilton Entertainment-As-News Crap is exactly the kind of stuff the Evil Ones want us to be distracted by, Dondi. Now wake up and smell the rot.

Right. And speaking of rot, is anyone here familiar with the Chemtrail conspiracy? I have my own outlandish and outraged perspective on it (more outraged than outlandish--but again, that's from my persepective) and it is basically this: IF our skies are being raped by planes that are dumping any kind of chemical behind them, we should know what the hell is going on and not have to just watch like stupid humans as the planes clearly pass overhead and create a mess.

NickthePilot (don't know if you even read this thread), have you ever seen any evidence of chemtrails in your sky adventures?

Here are some internet links that address this issue:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemtrail_conspiracy_theory
http://www.rense.com/politics6/chemdatapage.html
http://chemtrailslosangeles.wordpress.com/|
http://outdoors.webshots.com/album/557292869lVyvJr
Chemtrails/Weather Modification Advisory and Research Board/Bill S517/Contrail/Spraying

That last link is mostly for those of you out there who, like me, would not put it past the Big Benevolent/Two-Faced White Men and Their Sell-Out Cronies in Charge to try to pull something off as bizarre and ultimately illogical as spraying our skies with weird experimental chemical mixtures from pollution- and global-warming causing jets to supposedly combat global warming.

I say, "Whaaaa---???!"

And then take a look at this and let me know what you think.

Inquiring minds indeed.

Warily,
Pathless

[wil]

Haliburton moved their headquarters to Dubai....

wonder why?

gonna record a bundle of profits in Iraxes

and don't wanna pay taxes?