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  1. The Artis Magistra

    I'm on a journey, hello. :)

    I didn't quickly wiki it as my basis for what I said, I wikied it to show you what wikipedia says it is. Anyway, if you're sure this is what you read rather than the Tao Te Ching mistitled perhaps as I Ching, then feel free to discuss how you derived anything much from the hexagram numeric game...
  2. The Artis Magistra

    I'm on a journey, hello. :)

    I didn't say I don't want to pray or I do want to pray. The question was, how the heck do you "pray" without trying to deliberately transmit anything to anyone. It defies not only logic but the meaning of the word. The reason that question came up is because cino or someone brought up the idea...
  3. The Artis Magistra

    I'm on a journey, hello. :)

    I Ching is a totally different thing, also very hard to process without lots of context, since its about Chinese magic stuff. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Ching Its basically not really very conducive to deriving much ethical policy or religious hope for salvation or psycho-spiritual...
  4. The Artis Magistra

    I'm on a journey, hello. :)

    But there is no "what" to pray "for" or "who" to pray "to"? Thus making the activity being mentioned here barely comprehensible to me? Talk to God? Talk to myself? Silent would mean no talking though. So staying awake silently not saying anything or thinking anything much. As a result, feeling...
  5. The Artis Magistra

    I'm on a journey, hello. :)

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/tao/ Tao Te Ching (has alternative spellings for even the word Tao is sometimes spelled Dao and Dao De or Dao Di or variations). The second one is Zhuang Zhou's Zhuangzi or Chuang Tzu (I skipped the names because of all the spelling variants so that a search for the...
  6. The Artis Magistra

    I'm on a journey, hello. :)

    The other group of writings which really takes a dump on women are the Buddhist writings and it has a pretty formal and institutionalized official suppression of female authority and rank and all that. The third and fourth most women hating are the Zoroastrians and Hindus in whichever order is...
  7. The Artis Magistra

    I'm on a journey, hello. :)

    Just not doing or thinking anything for a while? Is that the thing I should try? Its a good time because I'm about to sleep. If there is anything else other than not thinking about anything or doing anything as part of the practice, I can try that also. I will continue to breathe but I will just...
  8. The Artis Magistra

    Religion v. Myth

    I think there is not a single myth that I like or enjoy.
  9. The Artis Magistra

    I'm on a journey, hello. :)

    So all people are not already posessed as they are?
  10. The Artis Magistra

    I'm on a journey, hello. :)

    Pray to what though and for what? Its like saying intention to make a call. Make a call to who? Intention to request. Request what?
  11. The Artis Magistra

    Debate: Is Islam a Threat to the West?

    It seems groups are bad, individuals can be good. I love "The American Way" because militant/legal control of creativity and beliefs is a nightmare for me (notice my resistance towards being limited or censored too much?). I'd be dead meat if I didn't have the protection of Sodomerican or...
  12. The Artis Magistra

    I'm on a journey, hello. :)

    I just don't get it. I'm probably wrong but it seems like people might sometimes try to be cryptic or mysterious in an effort to get some kind of "upper-hand" when intimidated in some way and feeling unable to compete or match up in any other way. I am not sure or suggesting that is happening...
  13. The Artis Magistra

    I'm on a journey, hello. :)

    What aspect of what you described is or would be considered "praying"? If being a blank headed do-nothing is "praying" I spend the majority of my time "praying" by being blank headed and doing nothing most of the time. Atheists might also call that a waste of precious little time we have, but I...
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    Debate: Is Islam a Threat to the West?

    I think the Persian Empire history issue still played a part in the struggle and development of the sects even though Shia did not officially take over the area until later. Cool post after yours as well with pictures and everything!
  15. The Artis Magistra

    LGBTQ Rights and Society

    Why was it kept quiet if considered acceptable, approved of, and normal? How was a minority of people opposed to sex between two men able to so actively suppress the majority of men having sex with other men? The Greeks and Japanese were practicing pederastry, they were having sexual relations...
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    Debate: Is Islam a Threat to the West?

    The Shia are really most likely an attempt of Persians to separate themselves from Arab dominance and later Turk and Mongol dominance. Persians had been a dominant Empire for many hundreds of years and had a hatred for being dominated by a foreign power such as the conquering Arabs, so instead...
  17. The Artis Magistra

    I'm on a journey, hello. :)

    Thats ok. It wasn't your question anyway I think, I was just providing a collection of background information and etymology to help me understand the alternative version being suggested here, the non-petitionary, non-propitiatory, prayer and worship devoid of external or foreign audience with...
  18. The Artis Magistra

    Oomoto

    Oh cool! Konjin or Kubera or Pluto or Hades or Ahriman or even Amatsu Mikaboshi and Myoken and Bishamonten or Tamonten (North God of Wealth and Metals and All Directions and Spirits) is a theme I've been dealing with a lot as well. I also dislike the Japanese Imperial focus on Amaterasu instead...
  19. The Artis Magistra

    I'm on a journey, hello. :)

    Which brings up an earlier mentioned issue or reminiscent of something discussed in another thread. What the heck is that or what does it mean to do that? Prayer as far as I'm aware is a request invocation "pray tell". " pray (v.) early 13c., "ask earnestly, beg," also (c. 1300) "pray to a god...
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    Believers Sealed on the Forhead?

    Its been over a decade since the original post was made. I wonder what the status of their religious practice and belief is now!
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