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We already know the answer to this. Just that no one likes the answer. We are destructive by nature. Millions of years of violence inbred within us, with a few thousand years where we have shellacked a veneer of civilized behavior over the top. We are, for all intents and purposes, no different...

You gotta understand Phyllis. Tumpcuff needs Scott Baio to do this. NEEDS Scott Baio.

My response is that tens of thousands of people worship these gods. We place them above mere mortals. We go to a place of worship to commune with them on a weekly basis. We pay gobs of taxpayer money when these gods require a new place of worship, re - stadium (even though they are perfectly...

Just a quick aside. Although I share Wil's faith in the ability of science to answer many questions as we move forward in time, I do not believe science will ever be able to provide the answers to everything. I know I keep harping on this one issue - science is a technique to look at the...

So, what? Catholic.com is not a reliable source for information on Catholic doctrine?

I agree with you. I am not judging one system from the premise of another though. I am saying the two systems are different and have to be judged differently. Hence my comparison between grading the validity of a math quiz versus testing the validity of an english essay. The english essay is...

We don't know though, right? At this time we cannot go before the big bang. We have conjecture that fits down to micro-seconds before the big bang, but the bang itself, nope we still do not have a clue. Even 10 years ago we didn't have the tools and experiments to get that close to the...

As you know I have difficulty with that latter concept. It doesn't seem reasonable to me to say if A then B in this particular situation. I have been here a while now, and have spent a lot of time trying to comprehend how some people believe scripture can be taken literally. Whatever the answer...

Of Good Gods Above and Below! 2+2=4 only if one applies a certain model to the problem? Yep this is the fairy tale nonsense of philosophy at work here. OF COURSE we start with a model for mathematics to come to our answers. It's not the other way around. Use a base 10 set of numbers and compare...

Perhaps a more apt comparison is having a fully fueled, functional car, but not knowing it needs an nitrogen/oxygen environment to work? The missing piece isn't even part of the car!

God's response is already there. In every thing. Always. It's like breathing in a way. You don't have to seek out oxygen. You but have to take the action of taking in a breath, and the air is there. So it is with God, seems to me. A bit more complicated than that, perhaps. But not much. Awwww...

I think I said that. lol. One cannot be passive to acquire any form of spiritual awareness. And whether theist, deist or neithereist the understanding of agape from eros is crucial.

Me: This (God hears sincere prayer) is a wonderful statement. It takes away all the rigamarole surrounding the religion aspect itself. It would even work for a deist like me outside of theist circles. Thomas: OK, but it side-steps the question then, doesn’t it? Actually, no I do not believe...

Ah. I understand. It is a sad commentary on the Christian faiths in the U.S. these days that they believe precisely that. They OWN God. They're hubris will catch up to them some day, though sadly, I do not believe it will be any time soon.

Ummm, you willing to rephrase that? Cause I don't have a clue what you just wrote! o_O

This is a wonderful statement. It takes away all the rigamarole surrounding the religion aspect itself. It would even work for a deist like me outside of theist circles. Well said.

One more before the very end of the year. William Christopher, Father Mulcahy of Mash just passed away.

I was not responding to this particular statement. My comment was general in nature as to why barbaric customs still exist in modernized countries.

Whole heartily agree with Tea. It is great to see discussion of the Baha'i faith from the differing perspectives of some of its adherents. A rare experience here.

Cause religious and social conventions are almost always intertwined within a population. Many say it is the social rules are at fault when religions have cruel and barbaric requirements on women. I don't think they should get off so easily with that response. It is the combination of the two...