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As a former christian I can understand the anxiety very well. It is a very real and palpable fear which is a prime motivator in all christians lives. It is also a damn lie. I have gotten into it at length here and am a bit too tired from work to do so again, but just reason it through for...

Alan Watts??? It sounds like something he would say. I googled the quote you gave and nothing turned up.

What your list says to me is that you have developed an open and questioning mind and that you have lived enough to have seen through a few of the veils. In life we need to be committed to be (IMO) lifelong learners. Even cherished beliefs which we can and do form emotional and sentimental...

Thanks for the response salty. Even though things have strayed way off topic, this is at least discussion. As opposed to attacks and demands for credentials, etc. A forum such as this....in my opinion....is a level playing field where reasonable people of any status or belief can discuss...

And why do you think they are even bothering for the first time in history to start burning these books?????????? They just hadn't gotten around to it? A bucket list before they die? It all has to do with this god-damned war on terror. People are tired of it. It is an evil thing and has...

It is not about winning or losing. First. People cherry pick something which has little or nothing to do with the idea laid out and they rip it apart from there as they are biased against anything of the like and a just seeking to ridicule it or take it down. How is that a reasonable discussion...

You have been blaz'n too many fatties there dude. come back to earth.

What is funny is watching religio-tards seeking in vain to defend the indefensible. Well, actually it is pathetic.

Can't please anyone it seems, everyone reads what they want to see. Of course science is a logical and reasonable thing. That is what I was talking about for a while now, but then I get attacked for pissing on someones sacred cow, which I didn't really do, but people seem inclined to take...

We see through a glass dimly it has been written. None of us has the last word or the totally clear picture, which is why it is so completely stupid to get all personal about defending any one point of view. They are all suspect. All religions, all science, everything everyone holds dear...

I am merely playing around with an idea and look at the responses....wow. why bother.

Things have really gotten far from the point I was making. That being it seems as if our progress has been intentionally retarded by others who for some reason see this as a good thing. Religion and other superstitious beliefs have been employed to achieve this goal. This is the main thrust...

You are just looking to pick a fight. This is not very objective of you. Go ahead and rant and rave, it is very revealing of your nature and inner/spiritual maturity. Must subscribe to a really "good" religion...eh?!:rolleyes:

Too true. Better not kick any sacred cows by having an alternative viewpoint.....LOL.

And you should know that I am just joking. ;)

It would not matter what field to such as you. Your usage of the word enlightenment and your interpretation of it is just that, your own. It has more to it than the narrow definition you suggest. If I go to a lecture and learn something, or do something new and it teaches me something...

You are free to have your own opinion ..... and if you wish to behave like a pompous ass then by all means carry on as you are doing a good rendition.

Fair enough. And for the record, I am not one of those types of people who make such statements indicated above. The info in the article I linked (Fermilab) indicates that this data has many people scratching their heads and seeking to find out the other implications of this find. Some have...

As I said, I am not an atheist as I do believe there is a God and this being (or whatever God is) has an interest in us and influence over us (but we are not really aware of the rules of the game according to God). We have a variety of moral codes which state that they have come from God, but...

Ideas, but where did they come from? This is one of the main themes of this thread. How did these "ideas" get injected into our collective consciousness? We are aware of the traditional stories which explain this, but that is biased information and cannot be relied upon...it is only one...