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    The Bab

    You have voiced my question. when the Bab saw some person who he thought was the Mahdi, then are'nt we are talking about two completely different individuals? Why is it being justified as transmigration or that the Bab was the spirit or essence or whatever of the Mahdi when he himself does...
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    I could accuse you of not offering a view on the issue as I have been in the past. But I wont. Live in peace. Regards,
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    The Bab

    Is'nt it surprising the Allah chose to protect the Quran for more than 1,400 years, but the next "revelation" is lost? or at least it s unreliable and open to question? Or atleast thats what the Bahais themselves are saying?
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    The Bab

    No problem if you dont like me. Or love me. Or dont pray for my long life. You wanted my view on Iran. I asked for the Bahai view on the Israel occupation of Palestine and murder of thousands of Palestinians. As per your request, only to make you happy, much against my will, I will not...
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    The Bab

    I could not understand what is the relation of the statement of Jesus with that of the Bab. Secondly, Mohammed Ibnil Hasan was referred to as Sahebal Amr as early as the period of the 6th Imam - Imam Sadiq (as). Thirdly, are you saying with any authority that the book was forged? If there...
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    The Bab

    The day the Bahais comment on the topic of persecution of the Palestinians at the hands of the Israelites, I will be happy to put down my comment on the persecution of the Bahais in Iran. But frankly, I have no interest in either. Regards,
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    The Bab

    While I am still debating how much of the present day Bible to use in arguments (I remember reading that even Shoghi accepts that the Quran is the only revelation of Allah which has remained untouched), does it really answer the question? Even if one were to accept your theory for understanding...
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    The Bab

    Wrong. What else have I done, but to ask one question - About the Bab being the Mahdi of Islam. it is important to me as a Muslim to understand this. Maybe you were born Bahai. I was not. That explains my interest in those matters which the Bahais accept as a matter of fact. Maybe you were...
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    The Bab

    Here is another quotation from Tafseere' Surah Kausar of the Bab which rubbishes your theory. Mind you, it is not me, but the Bab who rubbishes your theory - The Bab writes, "Imam Sadiq has related in a lengthy tradition, saying: "The occultation of our Qa'im will be denied by the umma. Some...
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    The Bab

    In your earlier post, you mentioned spirit. That is why I used the same word. Now you say not spirit, but essence. Read the text of Sahifae Adaliyah. The Bab makes no mention of spirit, essence or any other word that you can come up with. Again I ask you, is there some documentary proof for...
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    The Bab

    I have responded to this point many times before. Its sad tht you do not wish to accept my explanation of the same. Regards,
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    Islam in the time of the advent of the Mahdi

    Why is it a ludicrious question? You very conveniently rejected my arguments about the concept of music in the Quran stating that it does not exist. Now when I turn back to you and ask you whether the name of Imam Ali is present in the Quran, you call it hair splitting? The concept which I was...
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    The Bab

    Dear Scott: The title of Mahdi was given to the 12th Imam much before his birth. Is there any documentary proof for what you are telling me that the Bab considered himself as the return of the spirit of Mohammed Ibnil Hasan? Regards,
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    The Bab

    Dear Mick: Thank you for your post. I wish to clarify that: I am only here to further my understanding of the Bahai Faith and its origins. If I am Muslim and the Bahai Faith is the next in the line of dispensations from Allah, then I must accept it. But should one accept it just like...
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    I m not here to trumpet my own ideas - least of all sell Islam on this forum. That is clearly not my objective. You asked about music so I gave it to you. You can choose to accept or reject it. Regards,
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    Islam in the time of the advent of the Mahdi

    You are obviously not reading my posts. I gave the verses and the traditions about music and it being forbidden as per the Holy Prophet of Islam and the Holy Imams. If you want to find the exact word - music in Quran, it may not be available. But the traditions (in the same post) explain which...
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    The Bab

    One example I can give you right away is the book of Sahifae Adaliyah wherein on page 27, he outlines the belief of Imamate and names the 12 Imams in sequence and says that "Al Qaem Mohammed Ibnil Hasan Sahebazaman" is the 12th Imam. Dennis McEoin, Abbas Amanat seem to think that this book is...
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    So you mean that all traditions are false? Because as per your logic, all traditions came down to us the same way. And if I am not mistaken, so did the words of the Bab and Bahaullah - you have a committee - the UHJ which is now doing the same. So in effect what you are telling me is that the...
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    Islam in the time of the advent of the Mahdi

    Nope. The Prophet told us that that music and wine were innovations by the people. Did not come from the prophets. I can give you traditions on this, but again, you will call them superstitions. Incidentally, music was condemned since the time of adam. Regards,
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    The Bab

    I am glad to read your assertion that the Holy Prophet (pbuh) dd not lie. Why is it however that everytime I give you a tradition about the Prophet, you dismiss it summarily without checking its credentials. In my view, that is denying the words of the Prophet. Also, I notice, you never have...
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