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Exactly!

I'm not disagreeing with you overall statement. Just adding something. You mentioned this holding up in court. In the courts in Judea one would require at least 2 witnesses, preferably 3 witnesses to prove that an event had occurred. 4 would be even better. If all of the accounts matched up...

1. You might "think" that the 4 authors didn't have a common Q source, but most scholars (even non-believers) believe that these gospels came from a Q source. The believers see that Q source as being Jesus himself. The non-believers are still searching for a Q source that was written down...

You and I differ on the definition of a "valid 5th source". I view a valid 5th source as something that came from the same Q source, which we appear to agree that this "gospel" is definitely not from the original Q source. As you stated before, it is at LEAST a third hand account. The others...

No. It just pointed out how unexpected it was. That was all.

But it shouldn't come down to having to spend time on the ISS. The obvious proof is already there. I have a hard time believing that flat earthers are without blame for their fallacy of a belief.

I agree. And it is what I often do.

So it is valid because it is NOT Thomas who wrote it? It's valid because it's NOT from the original sources, rather a combination of oral stories? It's a valid 5th gospel because it changed so much over a short period of time? It's valid because it most likely was from a third (likely 4th)...

For those who don't think it's a choice, I'll just redirect you to this thread whenever I don't believe your argument. It's not my fault nor my choice to believe what you are telling me... or so I'm told.

Good points. Here are some more verses to consider. Obviously there is context to consider here, but I think they attest to your point. Matthew 13:14-15 2 Corinthians 4:4 Isaiah 29:10 John 12:40 Ephesians 4:18 Corinthians 2:14 2 Corinthians 4:4 "In their case the god of this world...

I did see an article about this. I thought about sharing it on here but never got around to it. Thanks for mentioning it.

So when a flat earther sees all the evidence to the contrary, it's not their fault? Place them on the ISS for a year and they still believe the Earth to be flat and it's not their fault they refuse to admit their belief is faulty? Do the words "ego", "stubborn" and "ignorant" have no meaning...

I find that to be partially true. But I have experienced so many arguments to the contrary. Maybe a person believes in belief A. They say they will believe belief B if source C supports it. Source C does indeed support it. Now they change their mind and say they will believe in belief B...

Yes. But what we choose is influenced by what we know and have experienced in life. Some people change their beliefs about certain matters when they are introduced to new experiences and information. Some people will stick to their beliefs no matter what they learn or experience.

Thank-you!

My understanding at the time was that orthodox texts found with this "gospel" were unfinished or had scribe errors. I assume you know the process behind copying scriptural texts so I won't bore you with the details. It was assumed they were discarded because they failed one of the criteria...

Ha ha... Come to think of it, I think my professor kept it. I probably have it on a floppy disk somewhere. Might even be on my college computer. I still have it in storage. If you consider it to be a valid 5th source, then feel free to provide some facts and reasoning for your opinion...

Thank-you!

Thank-you!

Along with a bunch of gnostic texts. A library one was nearby so the assumption is that these texts were intentionally discarded due to being declared heretic. Let me explain my purpose here because you don't seem to understand. I barely have any free time. My newborn is 2 weeks old so I...