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  1. IowaGuy

    Luciferianism

    If you're agnostic with regards to supernatural spirits, can you please explain what you mean by "my Luciferian path is one of a spiritual kind"? What is "spirituality" to a Luciferian that doesn't believe in deities or supernatural powers?
  2. IowaGuy

    Luciferianism

    OK, but let's say hypothetically that a group of Luciferians were going to start their own society, where Laws weren't already established; a new colony on Mars for the sake of argument. Wouldn't the setting of moral laws by a group of Luciferians constitute a defined morality, exactly the...
  3. IowaGuy

    Biblical Innerancy Fallacy

    And you think the Hebrew Slaves are the only peoples that ever "cried out to God"? You don't think African slaves ever cried out to God? You don't think the Aborigines, in 40,000 years, ever cried out to God?
  4. IowaGuy

    Luciferianism

    Luciferian Morality - how does a Luceferian define their own morality with no "scriptures" or "holy books"? I have read that Luciferianism doesn't have a standard moral code, that individuals should define their own morality. So if that's the case, how would morality be established on a...
  5. IowaGuy

    Oryoki

    "Meatless Mondays" are catching on in this country, perhaps you might be interested to give it a try along with some like-minded friends or family? Pretty soon you get used to not having meat at every lunch or dinner meal. Before you know it you're going 2 or 3 days without eating any meat at...
  6. IowaGuy

    Oryoki

    Well it's been over a decade since I've spent time in London, but I imagine that it's just as dense now as it was then. I have fond memories of the British Museum, street vendors selling roasted chestnuts, and the Chunnel. Yes, England = densely populated. Rural Scotland = not so much so...
  7. IowaGuy

    Luciferianism

    How do you "know" we will one day die? Through observation of others? The same observation that says we "know" the sun will rise tomorrow? The same observation in a laboratory that says we "know" that distilled water under 1 atmosphere of pressure boils at 212 degrees F ? Isn't the observational...
  8. IowaGuy

    Luciferianism

    Not true, you can still have this fear without religion. I know several atheists/agnostics that fear death (the unknown). In my experience, when one first leaves organized religion, the fear of death/unknown is greater than it ever was when one was part of that religion. It takes a lot of hard...
  9. IowaGuy

    Oryoki

    I'm definitely not advocating for 'divine command theory'. I don't believe in "absolute morality" (the morality view of many conservative Christians that I know, as evidenced by the 10 commandments and belief in "absolute truth" from God). IMO morality is relative to a particular society in a...
  10. IowaGuy

    Biblical Innerancy Fallacy

    Certain things come in a certain order. So, how long have humans been in Australia? Or North America? How does this fit in with your proposed timeline? IMHO, the authors of the bible never knew that humans existed in North America or Australia. So why would anyone think that all humans...
  11. IowaGuy

    Oryoki

    We cannot really countenance 7 billion Buddhist monks begging for food, can we? Who would then grow the food? We cannot really countenance 7 billion humans eating food provided by non-sustainable agriculture, while destroying our Mother Earth, can we? Who would grow or hunt the food if Mother...
  12. IowaGuy

    Luciferianism

    IG's attempted translation: LHP: "orgy or masturbation, it's all good" (define your own morality and break taboos) RHP: "either missionary position or abstinence" (specific moral code and avoid taboos)
  13. IowaGuy

    Oryoki

    Authentic sources are good, but they of course contain "subjective truths" relative to the era they were written in. Apparently Buddha wasn't too concerned about meat eating in 500 B.C.; but, given his teachings on compassion, interdependence, and mindfulness, I imagine he would be more...
  14. IowaGuy

    Oryoki

    Nick - interesting topic, but perhaps a new thread in the Abrahamic forum would be more appropriate? I'm not sure how many folks that would have good commentary on that are following an Oryoki thread 5 pages deep?
  15. IowaGuy

    Oryoki

    I do appreciate you pointing me towards the ATI website, I have learned a lot so far by reading the articles there. If he were alive today, with all of our environmental problems, I do not think that he would eat meat that is commercially-raised in a factory farm. And, of course, in other...
  16. IowaGuy

    Luciferianism

    More bizzare than circumcision? (cutting off nerve cells on a sexual organ). More bizzare than the requirement that the teacher of a religion (priest) not have sex for his entire life? More bizzare than the requirement than women cover their faces and bodies, lest they cause sexual desire in...
  17. IowaGuy

    Oryoki

    This is a good point Nick, ultimately every person chooses their own belief system and there are many different paths, even within a particular "religion" such as Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, etc. But I still can't wrap my mind around how, if one is a follower of Buddhism, upholding the...
  18. IowaGuy

    The Great Mother Archetype

    Not conducive to a discussion with Etu Malku. Apparently conducive to a discussion with SG and Lunitik. Why do you think some religions have non-gender gods/spirits, while others choose a gender for their god (usually male)? Does that tell us something about the biases of that religion itself?
  19. IowaGuy

    The Great Mother Archetype

    Back to the Great Mother Archetype, I find it interesting that "God" for some cultures is neither male nor female. For example, the Great Spirit/Wanka Tanka for most Native American cultures was not viewed as either male or female, and some cultures viewed the Great Spirit as the embodiment of...
  20. IowaGuy

    The Great Mother Archetype

    Etu - it's possible that Allelyah's first language is not english, or that he/she learned english from somewhere not in the "states". SG and Lunitik seem to understand Allelyah just fine :) I don't think Allelyah is trying to be problematic, that's apparently just the way his/her brain works...
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