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    Compilation of arguments against the existence of Jesus

    I said that I think we should read the gospel stories and related writings: as stories rather than history, but that could be misunderstood. I think that we should read them as stories rather than what actually happened, because there’s no way of knowing how much of them actually happened. I...
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    Compilation of arguments against the existence of Jesus

    Something funny just happened for me. For the last week or two I've been analyzing the logical fallacies in Richard Carrier's book "On the Historicity of Jesus." Just now I jumped ahead to the conclusion, and I actually agree with what it says about how we should read the gospel stories and...
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    Compilation of arguments against the existence of Jesus

    I don't see any reason to take any use of Bayes' Theorem seriously, unless it defines a probability space composed of a sample space, a sigma-algebra of events, and a probability measure on those events, as those are defined in probability theory. Those are the only conditions in which the...
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    What is the actual evidence for anything in and between Galilee and Jerusalem 20-33 CE?

    Here are some that we have evidence for. I'm discounting the Bible, Josephus and Tacitus as sources, like people sometimes do for Jesus. Pontius Pilate Role: Roman Prefect of Judea Evidence: Pilate inscription from Caesarea Maritima (confirms title and location) Caiaphas (Joseph son of...
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    Compilation of arguments against the existence of Jesus

    I've discovered that Bayes' Theorem has only been proven for probability spaces. "A probability space is a triple (Ω,𝔽,P) where Ω is a sample space, 𝔽 is a sigma-algebra of events and P is a probability measure on 𝔽." https://www.statlect.com/glossary/probability-space There's no proof for it...
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    What is the actual evidence for the existence of Jesus?

    I have a passion for trying to solve puzzles, and it's a topic that interests me because I have a personal interest in Jesus and the Bible.
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    Truth and Gospel

    Walking on water? Calming a storm? Feeding 5000 with a few fish and loaves? Turning water to wine? Virgin birth?
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    Truth and Gospel

    I'm like you, I think it's foolish to think that the miracles could not have happened, but that doesn't mean that they *did* happen.
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    Compilation of arguments against the existence of Jesus

    I'm studying Richard Carrier's book "On the Historicity of Jesus," which uses a probability theorem to argue that this is more likely than Christianity starting with a real person. The reason I'm studying it is because in discussions about it, I've seen what look to me like logical fallacies in...
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    Compilation of arguments against the existence of Jesus

    I have a different story, but there's no market for mine, either.
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    What is the actual evidence for the existence of Jesus?

    What I meant was, what more would anyone expect to see in an inscription on an artifact from the time of Jesus and where he lived, beyond the name "Yeshua," which we do have? Would they expect an artifact from that time to say, in English, "this is the Jesus that scholars will be debating about...
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    What is the actual evidence for the existence of Jesus?

    It looks to me like all the arguments about something we don't have that we would have if Jesus existed, even if he actually did miracles. drew crowds and alarmed religious authorities, are based on unreasonable and poorly informed expectations. And sometimes the claim that we don't have...
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    Compilation of arguments against the existence of Jesus

    I'm sorting the reasons into 3 groups: 1. This argument for the existence of Jesus is not convincing. 2. Everything in the New Testament can be explained some other way. 3. If Jesus existed, we would have ... 1. This argument for the existence of Jesus is not convincing. - In most or all cases...
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    What is the actual evidence for the existence of Jesus?

    I forgot, I downloaded the book from the Internet Archive, so no, I haven't been to Lataster's websites.
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    What is the actual evidence for the existence of Jesus?

    That review isn't about the book "Jesus Did Not Exist," which is the one that I mistakenly thought would be a good place to start, to learn about the reasons for thinking that he didn't exist. Also, I remembered wrong. I downloaded the book from the Internet Archive, not from any Lataster website.
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    What is the actual evidence for the existence of Jesus?

    Sorry for the confusion. I forgot, I downloaded it from the Internet Archive, so no, I haven't been to Lataster's website. I don't know if the book has the information I was looking for or not, but after half an hour of reading I decided that it wasn't worth the time to try to find it, and got...
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    What is the actual evidence for the existence of Jesus?

    Only to download “Jesus Did Not Exist, which I mistakenly thought was a good way to learn about arguments against the existence of Jesus.
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    Compilation of arguments against the existence of Jesus

    Someone was concerned that some people might not know the full story about reasons for thinking that Jesus did not exist, so I'd like to try to gather all the reasons together here. I'll post what I've found, and if anyone knows of any others, I hope they will post them. 1. Absence of...
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    What is the actual evidence for the existence of Jesus?

    If you want people to know the whole story about reasons for thinking that Jesus did not exist, you might need to understand better what the reasons actually are, then explain them one by one. I'm working on that now. The book "Jesus Did Not Exist" by Raphael Lataster might be a good place to...
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