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  1. presser_kun

    my life and this forum

    Funny that I'd reply to a post of this title, since it's not my life, after all. But what you say is true for me, too. I'm not in the throes of near-graduation, but do have a chaotic life at present, and do not get to be here at CR very much. I wish you well in your endeavors. I, too, am...
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    Proofs for existence of God

    I cannot prove that you who read this exist. I do, however, assume that you do. Why? It seems like a safe assumption to me. Safe because, even though my senses may be being fooled, even though it is a very real possibility that I am mad, locked in a prison, or, Matrix-style, asleep in a...
  3. presser_kun

    Proofs for existence of God

    Wow. You both (Vajradhara and Devatta) are so very far advanced compared to me. I hope to understand enough about Buddhism to discourse with you one day. My comment here, though I'm sure it must be a simple one, is this: Vaj said: i was contrasting the explanation of the Christian view...
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    Proofs for existence of God

    ^___^ Point taken. True, but for the ticket holder, the difference between 1 and 10 is significant. I think we see things the same way, jaxree. Do you know The Cloud of Unknowing? it's written by an anonymous 14th century English mystic, a handbook on prayer. The subtitle says...
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    Proofs for existence of God

    Not sure what you mean here. How do you understand God better, if not by refining your way of describing him and his relationship to you? We agree on this, for sure. peace, press
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    Proofs for existence of God

    I want to know I'm doing the right thing. Proof is not possible. I know that going in. So why do I think about and discuss proofs for/against God's existence? I learn from it, simply put. I grow. My faith grows, my intellect grows. Christians are fond of saying that God doesn't need our...
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    Proofs for existence of God

    This is one of the wonderful mysteries of the Christian understanding of God, I think. We are in him, and he in us, yet we retain our individuality. This was, and still is, home base for me. It is, indeed, very comforting. My problem with it (to stray from topic) is that this idea was fed to...
  8. presser_kun

    Proofs for existence of God

    I like your metaphors, too, Earl. Metaphor is the basis of all understanding, someone said. "This is like an apple, but is not an apple." "Oh, I see," we say. Each comparison enriches our sense of understanding of the object/subject at hand. Pantheism for chrystals? You made me...
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    Proofs for existence of God

    Hmm. Replying to my own post. Must have an inflated sense of self! :-) I've slept some and want to add just a bit. Minsky says that consciousness arises out of the complexity of the thousands of agents that make up the mind. But earthworms are conscious, no? Rather, aware? Is...
  10. presser_kun

    Proofs for existence of God

    Not an unchanging, but a continuous entity of self. Yes, I am, though the comments in my earlier post don't reflect this. You see, I'm growing, yea, verily, changing even as I consider my answer to you. ;) The events of my life happen to me, a single thing made of many parts that changes...
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    Proofs for existence of God

    Hmm...I tend to think the answer is yes. Here's why. I am constantly changing. As a small child, I learn to tie my shoe; to pronounce "spaghetti"; to ride a bike. Each experience builds my self confidence. The neighbor's dog snarls at me; I see my dad explode in anger for the first time; I cut...
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    Proofs for existence of God

    This may sound simplistic, but I think of my "self" as the part of me that does the thinking.
  13. presser_kun

    Proofs for existence of God

    I saw that thread, thought it was good, and filed it away in my mind (which thinks that I'm real) for futture enjoyment. As to the subject at hand, I'll add a bit, though it doesn't go very far toward the goal of proving one's existence to another. * * * I think, therefore I am. To me...
  14. presser_kun

    Proofs for existence of God

    Indeed. And thank you for saying so. Which I have had -- Which I have done. There's my problem: how to set my sails? Right. You can't. Erm...I can't. Wish I could just let go and let God, as they say. Used to do that, but find it (dare I say it?) unreasonable to do so any...
  15. presser_kun

    Proofs for existence of God

    Thanks for your words. More for me to think about. It's funny, you know? I've fairly ranted and expounded my view as though it's a settled, accepted thing within me, when in reality it's very much in flux. I believe in God. Really. I pray. I meditate. But I also question. Part of me...
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    Proofs for existence of God

    Ah, I apologise. I see that Vajradhara and brucegdc are both moderators. But I still thought that they were speaking to all that follow this thread, and not just to other mods.
  17. presser_kun

    Proofs for existence of God

    Before anything else, I want to say that I respect your opinion. I do not want to prove anything to anyone. I do not want to be or appear to be sarcastic. I was raised as a Christian fundamentalist. Spent many, many years as a quite earnest Christian. I still consider myself a Christian...
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    Proofs for existence of God

    Do you have anything to say about my logic here? Are there flaws in my reasoning? I'd welcome anything you care to share.
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    Proofs for existence of God

    Do you have evidence of non-humans conceiving of God? Do you believe what science tells us because you have worked through every proof of every assertion of science, or do you take what science says on faith? Conscience is the result of socialization. Without other humans to tell me...
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    Proofs for existence of God

    Partially. People do mimic what they observe, but it's not a given. People observe dogs licking the floor, but do not mimic it. I don't understand how this relates to the proof of God's existence. Perhaps you're saying that humans create/design things because God does? DNA is complex...
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